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Posted by: hengjxj Dec 16 2008, 01:03 AM
I actually started to use AT when I first played WMMT 3. But ome to think of it, using MT would be a little useful. That's when someone talk to me....said that it would be more chllenging to use MT. I told him "what for?" using AT is much more troublesome-free. He said must be patient....practice it by staring off to challenge someone noob. Now using MT eally changed my style of driving. Oh yes, I have one quesion (not regarding abt his post)

Q:I usually see ppl have choices of DG,D,B,G and HG. How do they get that kind of thingy...?

Posted by: xeoreg Dec 16 2008, 01:16 AM
MT is better, you can control the car exactly how you want it to handle

with AT, sometimes they make you go into a lower gear than necessary, and thus make you slower.

Posted by: hengjxj Dec 16 2008, 01:32 AM
yeah I totally agre wih ya:)

Posted by: Geo Dec 16 2008, 01:35 AM
with auto, sometimes, when you lose speed, it doesnt gear down for a bit and takes a while to respond so you lose quite gained from the lower gear when you can gain it back faster with manual.

Posted by: N643 Dec 16 2008, 01:36 AM
& 4 at it over revs

Posted by: XxZxX Dec 16 2008, 01:39 AM
QUOTE (hengjxj @ Today at 5:03 PM)
Q:I usually see ppl have choices of DG,D,B,G and HG. How do they get that kind of thingy...?

my jaw dropped when i saw tis qns, seriously. i wan to ask how long hv u been playin??

well to ans ur qns: buy the tuning card and play the whole of story mode, which will brin u to 820HP.

when playin, u can select from 600HP[HG] to 820HP[DG].

and shdnt u lik ask tis qns in tis thread?? --> http://wmexpressway.net/index.php?showtopic=27811

Posted by: hengjxj Dec 16 2008, 01:41 AM
Btw, which gear do you mostly use if u are in Osaka/Wangan/C1/Hakone
respectively happy.gif Mostly when I chalene player in Osaka always either at 5th or 6th gear.

Posted by: hengjxj Dec 16 2008, 01:42 AM
Oh sry..I gues I did not notice that forum post...well anyway I've been playing for only 6 months fear2.gif

Posted by: XxZxX Dec 16 2008, 01:45 AM
i will use whichever gears i nid to use at tat point in time.

and u can press the edit button to edit ur post.

Posted by: darkpaladinzz Dec 16 2008, 02:06 AM
QUOTE (XxZxX @ Today at 4:39 AM)
my jaw dropped when i saw tis qns, seriously. i wan to ask how long hv u been playin??

my jaw dropped when i saw your post, seriously, i want to ask how long have you been typing like this

Posted by: XxZxX Dec 16 2008, 02:19 AM
QUOTE (darkpaladinzz @ Today at 6:06 PM)
my jaw dropped when i saw your post, seriously, i want to ask how long have you been typing like this

well sori if u dont understand wat im typin. i dont rmb how long i hv been typin lik tis.

Posted by: Dare Dec 16 2008, 04:48 AM
mate. English.
Please.

Its not hard to press a few extra buttons.
-.-"

and high gear. for obvious reasons

Posted by: XxZxX Dec 16 2008, 05:04 AM
ok. sorry about that. due to having to type fast during gaming, i developed that way of typing.

sorry if it hurts ur eyes.

Posted by: Midnight Star Dec 16 2008, 06:09 AM
AT is great for 4 gear cars though. SVX drives as if it were manual 5 gear

Posted by: iKoN Dec 16 2008, 10:09 AM
QUOTE (hengjxj @ Today at 1:41 AM)
Btw, which gear do you mostly use if u are in Osaka/Wangan/C1/Hakone
respectively happy.gif Mostly when I chalene player in Osaka always either at 5th or 6th gear.

i use 740/B in C1, 760/D in NBL, wangan depends on the person im racing cuz some of them might go straight others may not, yokohane depends on which ramp, osaka 760 and hakone 760.. thats what i usually use but idk... \

imo MT ftw... its easier to control ur car like XEO said.. wen ur about to hit a wall most ppl shift down and counter steer and they dnt hit it.. its also an alternative to braking as in cutin off some speed but nawt drasticlly...

Posted by: BNR34NISMO Dec 16 2008, 05:38 PM
MT>AT, MT is more fun, while like xeo said, AT doesnt shift at the right time, its either too early or too late or whatever..i tried auto a few time, when guest left after battles, and i hated it. been drivin MT in every car racing game i play.

Posted by: roxas3 Dec 16 2008, 07:58 PM
As everyone said, MT unless you need it for certain cars such as the 4 gear cars in which AT is a better bet/training wheels for them.

Posted by: BNR34NISMO Dec 16 2008, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (roxas3 @ Today at 7:58 PM)
As everyone said, MT unless you need it for certain cars such as the 4 gear cars in which AT is a better bet/training wheels for them.

even with the 4 speed cars i used MT lol

Posted by: J^2 Dec 16 2008, 10:19 PM
I also started off using AT, all the way through WMMT2, but switched over to MT when I transferred my card to WMMT3 when I took my boyfriend's advice. It took some getting used to at first, but I find it much more fun and challenging than AT where you're reduced to just gas and brake pedals. Besides, you can always switch back with the options menu. My advice: find someone to teach you how use MT in the game instead of just randomly fishing someone to figure it out. This way they can provide you a guideline for shift points, etc..
When I started out, my boyfriend would either shift for me if I didn't notice something and thus learn from my mistake, or he would tell me what gears I can use for certain turns in the game. Since then, I've figured it out some things for myself and I find the game to be more challenging because I get to try new things instead of 'brake here, gas here, brake again' and so on. Plus, I've improved from being a below average player to an average player. happy.gif XD

Posted by: ken_r34 Dec 16 2008, 10:24 PM
Manual FTW! grin2.gif

Posted by: iKoN Dec 16 2008, 10:25 PM
beautifully said and explained J^2


i agree wit kenr34 tho..try MT practice makes perfect bro

Posted by: BNR34NISMO Dec 16 2008, 10:43 PM
heres my rule, luxury cars i go with AT, sometimes MT if its a sporty luxury like AMG or M3 etc. but if its a pure sports car i go with MT, or paddle shift if its paddle shift only. therefore when i started playing MT and any racing game, i went MT.

Posted by: bless Dec 17 2008, 03:48 AM
@hengjxj most players played MT than AT, but some players have to play AT due to shifter problem or other issues.

IMO if a player can use AT and win in battle its quite a achievement.

for your question of DG (Dangerous), D (Drift), B(balanced), G (Grip) and HG(High Grip)

as the names suggests they are the ratio of Power vs Handling. More handling more grip, More power more dangerous. This indirectly explain your question.

For most of the players here, they tend to use D and DG for obvious reasons.

Bless

Posted by: FClover Dec 17 2008, 08:02 AM
IMO there's really nothing much to gear shiftings...
Just use the right gear at the right speed and u'll be fine...: \

Posted by: hengjxj Dec 17 2008, 10:17 PM
wangan midnight maximum tune chapter 19[/URL]Oh....thanks for replying...Sry to ask this question, but I am sure that this is not posted yet in one of the threads...ok the question is: Do you guys remember stage 19 during the beginner's tuning.....cos' now I'm 580HP using my R33GT-R BNR34 and then I found it extremely hard to conquer this stage.I noticed it's in C1. There's lots of curves and bends...I know that's alright for me. But I only have 1 isiotic problem that is the number of NAMCO cars and trucks. I suspect I drifted too much then I banged on 1 of them.....BAD DAY mad.gif

Here's the link\:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsT0o5Rvtus

Posted by: bless Dec 18 2008, 05:54 AM
@hengjxj in this case i suggest you look into your car's performance. HIgh possibility your car is stock. IMO stock R34 are quite good, just that its longer than most cars.

Posted by: -vstar Dec 18 2008, 04:32 PM
QUOTE (hengjxj @ Yesterday at 10:17 PM)
wangan midnight maximum tune chapter 19[/URL]Oh....thanks for replying...Sry to ask this question, but I am sure that this is not posted yet in one of the threads...ok the question is: Do you guys remember stage 19 during the beginner's tuning.....cos' now I'm 580HP using my R33GT-R BNR34 and then I found it extremely hard to conquer this stage.I noticed it's in C1. There's lots of curves and bends...I know that's alright for me. But I only have 1 isiotic problem that is the number of NAMCO cars and trucks. I suspect I drifted too much then I banged on 1 of them.....BAD DAY mad.gif

Here's the link\:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsT0o5Rvtus

just use gear 3 for super sharp ones and 3 for not so.

Dude you're playing story with boost on, as long as you don't screw up on the last turn, you'll be fine.

I started MT3 in the summer and im now better then most players who started in MT2.

Just watch alot of good people play and watch their style of playing.


Posted by: iKoN Dec 18 2008, 04:40 PM
3rd gear is too low... imo... unless its a 5 gear car ofcourse..


Focus more on steering than shifting.. a great player told me this once.. n i got alot better.

Posted by: hengjxj Dec 18 2008, 11:17 PM
Gee....I thought that was easy...BTW, how did you guys pass through that stage...Idiotic 'blackbird'!!It was certainly easy passing the devilZ but not the other 2. Their cornerings are way too different from what 've observed the past few months that I've been playing MMT3. Arrgh...I can't wait to out-run that blackbird....it is one of the most irrating incident that I have eva come across.

Oh I think 5th geare is too fast...better use 4th gear... unsure.gif

Posted by: "Go to Osaka" Dec 19 2008, 12:22 AM
You have a break pedal. It's not just there to make it seem "realistic." Keep at it though. You'll get down in no time.

Posted by: FClover Dec 19 2008, 01:13 AM
Brake pedals are very useful for improving drivers...
You'll need to learn how to brake well...then when braking is alright you can learn when not to brake...and rely on steering alone happy.gif

Posted by: raven111 Dec 19 2008, 02:14 AM
QUOTE (hengjxj @ Dec 17 2008, 08:17 PM)
wangan midnight maximum tune chapter 19[/URL]Oh....thanks for replying...Sry to ask this question, but I am sure that this is not posted yet in one of the threads...ok the question is: Do you guys remember stage 19 during the beginner's tuning.....cos' now I'm 580HP using my R33GT-R BNR34 and then I found it extremely hard to conquer this stage.I noticed it's in C1. There's lots of curves and bends...I know that's alright for me. But I only have 1 isiotic problem that is the number of NAMCO cars and trucks. I suspect I drifted too much then I banged on 1 of them.....BAD DAY mad.gif

Here's the link\:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsT0o5Rvtus

Another suggestion is run it in Auto and use your brakes as well as your gas.

If you know your footwork and how to counter-steer [enough>properly], you'll have no problem.
Like "riding your gas" - believe it, there's a difference between that and simply jamming your gas.
["Riding" involves applying enough pressure to depress the pedal halfway; can be used for both brake and gas.]
Also helps to let off the gas a bit when entering a turn to reduce wheel friction, allowing some slide. And throwing yourself around corners/vehicles may help, but this DEFINITELY takes practice.
SPOILER

Posted by: mprasetya Dec 19 2008, 02:56 AM
Like Hengx.

I started play WMMT with Automatic. Then i moved to Manual.

Manual it's more fun. You play like you driving the real car

Posted by: Dare Dec 19 2008, 04:11 AM
QUOTE (hengjxj @ Yesterday at 5:17 PM)
R33GT-R BNR34

THAT is your problem....

Posted by: raven111 Dec 19 2008, 03:08 PM
QUOTE (mprasetya @ Today at 12:56 AM)
Like Hengx.

I started play WMMT with Automatic. Then i moved to Manual.

Manual it's more fun. You play like you driving the real car

Yaw, I guess...

Been doing Manual for awhile now, even during Battles and Story - but still can't do MT on Hakone.

Posted by: dastrife Dec 23 2008, 11:58 AM
dun tink ppl stil uses AT gear nowadays

Posted by: ImmortalDrifter Dec 23 2008, 12:00 PM
Always use MT for R34's. Of course, use MT for other cars, but you definitly want to use MT for a moving wall... ...

Posted by: teekay2049 Dec 23 2008, 12:17 PM
QUOTE (BNR34NISMO @ Dec 16 2008, 05:38 PM)
MT>AT, MT is more fun, while like xeo said, AT doesnt shift at the right time, its either too early or too late or whatever..i tried auto a few time, when guest left after battles, and i hated it. been drivin MT in every car racing game i play.


Man, how much more do you have to resemble my style of racing games laugh.gif
yes, MT works fine on all the rest of the cars except 4-gear cars where AT works amazing like the MT.

Posted by: BNR34NISMO Dec 25 2008, 11:21 PM
QUOTE (teekay2049 @ Dec 23 2008, 12:17 PM)

Man, how much more do you have to resemble my style of racing games laugh.gif
yes, MT works fine on all the rest of the cars except 4-gear cars where AT works amazing like the MT.

MT>AT lol ive always driven MT, except for those free games from guest which are AT..lol and AT isnt fun when it comes to sports cars lol

Posted by: hengjxj Dec 26 2008, 10:34 PM
Phew..... whistling.gif I've finally cleared chapter 19.But I have a problem with chapter 20 now.....How I hate that 'blackbird' pinch2.gif pinch2.gif

Posted by: FClover Dec 27 2008, 04:00 PM
Ooookay........I think you need a crash course on how not to crash 1st... : \
As in hitting walls and all...If you're really having that much problem in story mode then you need to watch how ppl play and learn from them...
Steer less...more lining...

Posted by: J-TunedGTR Dec 27 2008, 04:19 PM
jus like everyone says . use the brakes . it's there for a reason . if you are endlessly screwing up at those chapters try like ghost or t/a or watch videos . makes you memorize the tracks easily and kno when to shift . that is what helped me . happy.gif

Posted by: Dare Dec 27 2008, 06:14 PM
Chapter...

19...

o.o



Posted by: BNR34NISMO Dec 27 2008, 08:26 PM
alright whos the lil bastard that chose AT!!!?? MT was going 43-0..now its 43-1 laugh.gif

Posted by: Dare Dec 27 2008, 08:31 PM
^

AT + 1

xP

Posted by: BNR34NISMO Dec 27 2008, 08:34 PM
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING!!!! laugh.gif

Posted by: FClover Dec 27 2008, 09:32 PM
LMAO...
Post whores...
Anyways...Gear shifting is the 1st thing u should learn properly if u wanna use MT...
U can just shift everytime it hits red on the tach but it'll be slower compared to our UBER shifting points...
Then again that's a start...start with shifting everytime it hits red then adjust ur shift points to go even faster

Posted by: BNR34NISMO Dec 27 2008, 09:44 PM
QUOTE (FClover @ Today at 9:32 PM)
LMAO...
Post whores...
Anyways...Gear shifting is the 1st thing u should learn properly if u wanna use MT...
U can just shift everytime it hits red on the tach but it'll be slower compared to our UBER shifting points...
Then again that's a start...start with shifting everytime it hits red then adjust ur shift points to go even faster

did you vote in the poll? if you didnt go choose MT!!! laugh.gif screw AT!! fight the power!!! hahaha

Posted by: FClover Dec 27 2008, 09:56 PM
I would've voted for AT if I knew all these nonsense were going on... tongue.gif
But sadly no...I didn't...So I voted for MT... laugh.gif

Posted by: BNR34NISMO Dec 27 2008, 09:57 PM
woo hoo *high five*

Posted by: hengjxj Dec 28 2008, 01:17 AM
Excuse me....I've always applied the brakes for every orange and red sharp curves.The only problem i I thinkI raked too much... dry.gif

Posted by: BNR34NISMO Dec 28 2008, 01:19 AM
what does that have to do with AT or MT? lol

Posted by: Geo Dec 28 2008, 02:35 AM
WOW HE RAKES A LOT.

Posted by: BNR34NISMO Dec 28 2008, 02:39 AM
rake? like raking leaves in the autumn time? laugh.gif

Posted by: raven111 Dec 29 2008, 05:44 AM
QUOTE (hengjxj @ Dec 26 2008, 08:34 PM)
Phew..... whistling.gif I've finally cleared chapter 19.But I have a problem with chapter 20 now.....How I hate that 'blackbird' pinch2.gif  pinch2.gif

Refresh my memory - what transmission are you using again?
    Notes for if you're using
  • AUTOMATIC: check your wheel-handling and footwork. Next to keeping your car pointed away from walls, counter-steering and proper pedal application are absolutely critical.
  • MANUAL: check your wheel-handling, footwork, and shifting. On top of the above, make sure you're shifting right - sometimes this is best done w/ a seasoned WMMT player observing.
----
In the meantime...
I've taken my friend's accel tip by hitting the second mark inside the redline; it's improved my perf a lot, but I still find myself falling back on speedpoints around turns and out of habit.
Still working on it, tho...

Posted by: hengjxj Dec 31 2008, 12:02 AM
I'm so sorry not 'Rakes' but brakes. I think sth wrong with my damn keybord laugh.gif
But anyway i using MT

Posted by: LAD Jan 4 2009, 08:44 PM
i have always been using MT and i always had 5 gears on my subaru STI version VI so now that i use my evo 8 its really confusing using 6 gears but im slowly getting the hang of it smile.gif

Posted by: kirashin Jan 9 2009, 09:50 AM
well...i too play mani racing game..using AT(tat included initial D..xD wonder how i survive..) well either way..until mt3...i think it more realistic to play usin gear...and also a good stress reliever..xD well..i think mt..manual make it much fun to play...wit AT it like not playin it at all..

Posted by: raven111 Jan 9 2009, 04:41 PM
QUOTE (hengjxj @ Dec 30 2008, 10:02 PM)
I'm so sorry not 'Rakes' but brakes. I think sth wrong with my damn keybord laugh.gif
But anyway i using MT

Only solid advice I can give is that accel tip in my last post, but I'm fairly sure accel isn't your problem. If you're still having problems, please give a fairly detailed explanation.

Posted by: MattzillaEvo Jan 18 2009, 01:54 PM
I started with MT in first time.
never tried AT before, but sometimes I play with AT, when shifter is broken.

Posted by: iKeeto Jan 29 2009, 10:56 PM
MT teaches is better because you shift at your own points and teaches you to be a better driver

Posted by: *eee* Jan 29 2009, 11:15 PM
mt teachs you how to shift at different points of time same as in a regular car you need to shift at a certain time and point of the meter

Posted by: noOb R34 Jan 30 2009, 01:20 AM
i like to play on MT coz it looks cool..
i don't like to play on AT coz it feels like i'm not playing at all..boring

Posted by: raven111 Jan 30 2009, 02:43 PM
QUOTE (noOb R34 @ Yesterday at 11:20 PM)
i like to play on MT coz it looks cool..
i don't like to play on AT coz it feels like i'm not playing at all..boring

Tried Auto on Hakone yet? Might not be so boring.
------------------------------
I downshift at times when I need to a little bit of handling or urgently need to slide around things.

For the record, I have a difficult time managing Hakone on Manual, and 5-gears are a nightmare to me (for having done 6-gears for so long).
Did manage to note guesstimated speedpoints on the Evo5 for gears 3-5: 160>260>307.

Posted by: 909*CT9A Jan 31 2009, 12:10 AM
MT.

Auto is stupid

Posted by: noOb R34 Jan 31 2009, 04:52 AM
@raven:

I play MT on Hakone coz it looks cool..
AT..not so cool at hakone..and i'm pretty sure it makes you slower(if you accelerate wrong i mean)..

Posted by: Dare Jan 31 2009, 06:49 AM
<---- Is wondering how using manual can look cool

Posted by: shadowsuke Jan 31 2009, 07:07 AM
cos you can act like you know how to play probably

Posted by: Dare Jan 31 2009, 07:08 AM
Weird...

technically the best way to play well when using MT...

is to shift as little as possible..


so you wont really be slamming and shifting gears

Posted by: noOb R34 Feb 1 2009, 12:11 AM
it just happens to look cool..playing MT XD

Posted by: EvoLover Feb 1 2009, 12:21 AM
I vote for.. MT for most of my cars

But I feel better AT when using my Hiace, dunno why

Posted by: shadowsuke Feb 1 2009, 12:27 AM
QUOTE (Dare @ Yesterday at 7:08 AM)
Weird...

technically the best way to play well when using MT...

is to shift as little as possible..


so you wont really be slamming and shifting gears

shrugs

eraser technique? =P

Posted by: Virus. Feb 1 2009, 03:12 PM
i like using both its fun i use MT wen im not lazy and AT wen i just get tired of shifting

Posted by: 909*CT9A Feb 10 2009, 06:22 PM
QUOTE (Dare @ Jan 31 2009, 07:08 AM)
Weird...

technically the best way to play well when using MT...

is to shift as little as possible..


so you wont really be slamming and shifting gears

really? shifty2.gif



Posted by: ken_r34 Feb 11 2009, 06:28 AM
QUOTE (Dare @ Feb 1 2009, 12:08 AM)
Weird...

technically the best way to play well when using MT...

is to shift as little as possible..


so you wont really be slamming and shifting gears

lol qft...




I always notice that in the vids on youtube, and while watching pros... grin2.gif

Posted by: *eee* Feb 11 2009, 09:32 PM
QUOTE (Dare @ Jan 31 2009, 07:08 AM)
Weird...

technically the best way to play well when using MT...

is to shift as little as possible..


so you wont really be slamming and shifting gears

hum i going to try that

Posted by: HeeroYuy135 Feb 21 2009, 12:51 AM
I gave that a shot at the tournament I was at yesterday.
It actually has a great effect!

Posted by: =}Pyro{= Feb 21 2009, 01:04 AM
I find AT harder than MT... shift points are completely wrong the way i drive. Cornering speed suffers a lot.. which is my only advantage. Tried once , never going to do again. With AT... don't know if this makes any sense but it kinda makes the car grip better, by changing to lower gear when you really don't need to

Posted by: raven111 Feb 21 2009, 03:16 AM
I kinda understand that, Pyro; however, you also need to watch your HP - too much HP bars, and you'll literally be iceskating w/ no skates.

Of course, knowing how to use Auto well makes doing things like Hakone/AT relatively easy - if you're lucky, it'll even keep you a long way from last spot in a multi-way battle; just remember to minimize usage of your brakes to a need-to basis - if anything, the gas kinda covers a fair portion of the braking function (thru wheel-vs-ground friction).

Posted by: drazier101 Feb 27 2009, 09:18 PM
I think it's best to use AT on cars with 4 transmission... While MT for cars with higher transmission... cool.gif

Posted by: thebluewind25 Feb 28 2009, 05:06 AM
ill go 4 MT!!!

AT sucks!! at least 4 mt, you may control the car d way u want it to go....

Posted by: drazier101 Feb 28 2009, 07:20 PM
Just shift the gear according to you're speed and on the right points... laugh.gif

Posted by: HeeroYuy135 Mar 16 2009, 07:13 PM
The only use I have for AT now is for the first half of an outrun (Levels 1-5)...or all of Hakone outrun

Posted by: Virus. Apr 14 2009, 11:02 AM
i like using AT its fun when u dont wanna shift

Posted by: 909*CT9A Apr 14 2009, 03:27 PM
^^^
aha
ive never tried AT
theres been times where i was really tired
just sore,contacts all dry, and sleepy and the last thing i wanna
do is drop it into 4th in a turn then go to 6th after the turn....
___________
il explain the usage of gears for u

u go from 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th & if u have it 6th
then u make the usual down shifts on some turns

Posted by: Matz Feb 25 2010, 01:29 AM
manual is fun coz you get control of your speed... i find auto boring coz my other hand got nothing to do.

Posted by: ac101 Feb 25 2010, 01:31 AM
lol...matz...really?
u had to revive a 10month old thread to say manual is more fun? ^^;;

Posted by: Matz Feb 25 2010, 01:35 AM
laugh.gif it's the first time i saw this thread laugh.gif didn't notice it's old laugh.gif

Posted by: CNR4806 Feb 25 2010, 07:56 AM
Auto have a bad response of gear shifting, this is the main reason that most people choose MT over AT. You'll have to get used to it since WMMT is the only game that actully uses a 6-shift gear system instead of pushing the stick up and down like BG4 or ID series.

Posted by: CarlRaven Jan 14 2017, 04:48 PM
MT since I started. I only use AT if the gears are spoilt.

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