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> a way to prove aerokits/wheels affect performance?, just getting this idea out of my head...
bunny2002sg
Posted: Feb 13 2008, 04:15 PM
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i've seen enough bodykit/wheels threads here (and other forums too) degrade into mud-slinging, so here's what might help.

most of the info i've read were based on how the cars felt while they were driven, yet some people have said that the difference in TA times/races were from differing driving techniques, so the basic idea is that we hook up the game with a computer that records a player's driving patterns, and then use it on the different aerokit/wheels combinations for every car. this will help to take driver error out of the equation, and can also help someone to find out which setup/car would suit his/her style of driving.

problems would include getting a suitable cabinet, the actual hooking up and hacking into the software/hardware, programming of this AI and how much time we can waste on an arcade game. whistling.gif

2 cents, jmho, inb4 flames for english(?). fear2.gif
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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 04:26 PM
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yeah its a good idea, but its not plausible. money wise and time wise.
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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 07:41 PM
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its not worth ur effort dude..lol laugh.gif
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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 07:59 PM
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haha. Just to prove you're right? that's a lot of effort. Why not just agree to disagree. Also, I don't think theres any software that records that
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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 11:08 PM
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I think you are going too far.


Probably be a interesting school/uni science project though.
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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 11:11 PM
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I haven't done this myself but I assume you can check if your top speed has decreased but simply going on wangan or yokohane. Word on the street says aero kit c is usually the heaviest (lower top speed but less sliding) while orginal or aero kit a is the lightest, but take everything with a grain of salt.
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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 11:19 PM
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How about we kidnap the games programmers and force them to give us some answers.
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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (Raiden @ Today at 11:19 PM)
How about we kidnap the games programmers and force them to give us some answers.

They only speak Japanese... D:

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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE (RemieGino14 @ Today at 11:22 PM)
They only speak Japanese... D:

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Well hell if there was ever a time to get a translator.
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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 11:38 PM
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@bunny2002sg

It probably be better if we ask "them" to add performance dyno in a future game release.
Maybe even display basic specs of your car while adjusting between Power and Handling, some add-ons such as displaying gross weight, top speed, 0-100km/h, 0-60km/h, wheel weight; adjustment of camber/height, rear wing angle(downforce), etc etc.

how's that? We don't have to hack our way in, its not worth the risk but there are other ways.

Good thinking there though
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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (Raiden @ Today at 11:30 PM)
Well hell if there was ever a time to get a translator.

If no translator is available at the time of capture. We are about to cut off a finger of the programmer and then he says, "I'm sorry we realirized that we made a mistake....". LOL How about just play and have fun. I'm tired of the seriousness of this game already, it's fun for me to play and enjoy now.
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Posted: Feb 13 2008, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE (tension @ Today at 2:11 AM)
I haven't done this myself but I assume you can check if your top speed has decreased but simply going on wangan or yokohane. Word on the street says aero kit c is usually the heaviest (lower top speed but less sliding) while orginal or aero kit a is the lightest, but take everything with a grain of salt.

Lines and shift times.

It's impossible.
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kirashin
Posted: Feb 14 2008, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE (RemieGino14 @ Yesterday at 11:22 PM)
They only speak Japanese... D:

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nice idea..if like that why dun we steal the cabinets...swt..
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Posted: Feb 14 2008, 02:19 AM
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have them in automatic?

err nvm. the lines would be a proble, yeah impossible. (consistency)

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Posted: Feb 14 2008, 04:42 AM
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Is it really that important whether or not they *really* affect performance?
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Calx Zinra
Posted: Feb 14 2008, 05:34 AM
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for TA's sake? it seems so!
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Posted: Feb 14 2008, 05:49 AM
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QUOTE (Calx Zinra @ Today at 5:34 AM)
for TA's sake? it seems so!

then just run TA's with different bodykits and/or wheels to find the best one...

instead of computers, etc etc etc

or, use the official machine. there are plenty ranked OMs....
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Posted: Feb 14 2008, 06:59 AM
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Jeez. Can't wait to reach dress up level 51+ so I can test the other body kits... I'm on 43...
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Posted: Feb 14 2008, 07:06 AM
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Or how about asking the hardcore expert gamers who do put a lot of time into playing MT3, like the members of Team Akuma (many of them who post here have usernames starting with akuma$$$$)? Most of them testify to differences in performace thanks to the dressups, considering how much gaming experience they have and their top performances in VS games (eg the boss aka akumaCarlo has logged over 225,000km on his Supra RZ aka KAREN and mastered it enough to not just seize the Wangan Crown, but set a pace so fast almost no one else can match it and steal the crown from him; when he saw my Supra sporting the car-type wing, immediately he commented that it's "heavy" i.e. adds weight to the car affecting performance, and I noticed his Supra, the one that holds the Wangan Crown, has the standard wing; in another case, a friend of the team with lots of experiece with Imprezas, when he saw my GDB-C with Aero Set B, commented that my car would be lacking in pace and suggested another aero set, and when I changed it to Aero Set C, its increase in pace definitely showed in the VS matches.).

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Posted: Feb 14 2008, 07:10 AM
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Hey, I waste too much time and money on this and I'm not an expert. SHUT UP!
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Posted: Feb 14 2008, 07:34 AM
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Oooh, looks like I struck a nerve here eh? Perhaps some evidence of expert play is in order: here are videos of TA times set by akumaCarlo himself. Just look at his pace and his racing lines, particularly in Hakone with an HP setting of 760

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArkhPrludiY
http://profile.imeem.com/5feShbb/video/ec6...deogames_video/
http://profile.imeem.com/5feShbb/video/Miu...videogames_vid/

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Posted: Feb 14 2008, 07:37 AM
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He's smooth, but I don't give a shit.
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Posted: Feb 14 2008, 07:55 AM
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I arrest my case.

P.S. That's smooth -and- fast (again he used 760 HP setting - a setting where just about everyone else racing in Hakone would definitely be banging the roadsides - and broke the machine time record in the process, in case you didn't notice)
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Posted: Feb 14 2008, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE (Sailor Enlil @ Today at 10:55 AM)
I arrest my case.

Your case committed a crime?
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akinaae86
Posted: Feb 14 2008, 11:23 AM
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the idea is plausible but it would take too many resources just to prove this point... let's agree to disagree... IMHO, dress-ups serve as placebos for some of us...
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