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> Help!! R34, EVO IX or RX7?, choose a car
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  Posted: Aug 12 2014, 04:51 AM
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Hi~ I just started Wangan Midnight Maxi Tune 4 around 3 weeks ago.... However, i still can't choose a car that is best suit for me. What are the pros and cons of Nissan Skyline R34, Lancer EVO IX and Mazda RX7(FC)? And one more thing, how to master sharp cornering (the one with red warning sign)? I know that we need break(but hard break or soft?), turn the steering to the end and shift to gear 4 from 6. Anything else i miss, i always lose to someone at those red corner.
P.S. I had a full tune up R34 and EVO VI (completed Hell Tuning).
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Posted: Aug 12 2014, 05:02 AM
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Could have been asked in the questions thread, but short answer is there is no way to tell you what car "suits" you without knowing how you play.

How well you control the car is far more important than what car you use when you start off. Learn the car, learn how to use it, its nuances, before thinking about what car to use to take your game to the next level.

Long story short, 34 is longer/fatter/heavier, stronger in battles, slides pretty easily. Accel is good, unfortunately does lose speed when turning

e9 is lighter, has one of the best accelerations in game. Can turn tighter and hold its line better than most, good for battle. Light, so if you dont know what you're doing could be pushed around, but with experience you can work around by using its acceleration.

Red turns, there are no fixed ways of answering that, each turn is different. Learn entry speeds, when you need to brake, when to turn. Dont be afraid to release your accelerator, instead of just stepping on it all the way.
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Posted: Aug 12 2014, 08:10 AM
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R34:Blocker #1,maybe Supra can fight it for block king.Handles worse than RX7,have to release accel/brake before RX7,can ram better than RX7.

FC3S:Terrible recovery.Handles like a fatter AE86.Quite light.Easily pushed by fat car.Rare car.DON'T BANG THE WALL WHEN TURNING.But then again,very good handling in corner,so u should not easily bang wall.

Dun play evo cars,so idk evo9.
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Posted: Aug 12 2014, 08:40 AM
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you say you had a full tune R34, why not just make one of those again since you're used to it?

imo, the car you'll do best with is the one which you drive the most.
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Posted: Aug 12 2014, 10:55 AM
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> The car you'll do best with is the one you drive the most.

Didn't we go over this every single time already, everytime the question's been endlessly raised?


Regardless, here's my two cents of the matter - at least for the cornering issue.

Everytime you enter a corner, you'll hear beeping noises while the red sign is indicated prior to entering the corner. Use the beeps as your threshold. after 4-6 beeps when it appears on your screen is oftentimes the best time to brake then turn in hard. Always aim for the apex (center inside of the corner) on cornering.
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Posted: Aug 12 2014, 10:02 PM
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Choose any car you like.

Watch better players and how they do turns. If people are getting ahead of you in battles during the turns, apply their tactics next time. Not all red turns require you to full turn the wheel. Also depends on how much hp you're running on. When running 830, you're better off hitting the wall at an angle and downshifting 6>3 on specific turns.

Another red turn is the C1 inward down left into CW, in which hitting the wall is generally the best option(except during battle)

A clue to whether they are hard braking, soft braking or just lifting the pedal can be determined from their brake lights and turbo boost meter(the 0.5-2.0).

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Hard brake - Red lights appear for a period and turbo boost goes down all the way

Soft brake - Red lights flashes and turbo boost dips for just a moment

Gear shift down/up - No lights but turbo boost dips to 1.5 and back up. Exhaust flares

Any feathering(releasing the acceleration pedal) - exhaust flares depending on how far he depresses the accelerator. Light - may have none.

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Posted: Aug 12 2014, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE (Aphrite @ 19 minutes, 32 seconds ago)
Choose any car you like.

Watch better players and how they do turns. If people are getting ahead of you in battles during the turns, apply their tactics next time. Not all red turns require you to full turn the wheel. Also depends on how much hp you're running on. When running 830, you're better off hitting the wall at an angle and downshifting 6>3 on specific turns.

Another red turn is the C1 inward down left into CW, in which hitting the wall is generally the best option(except during battle)

A clue to whether they are hard braking, soft braking or just lifting the pedal can be determined from their brake lights and turbo boost meter(the 0.5-2.0).

Generally:

Hard brake - Red lights appear for a period and turbo boost goes down all the way

Soft brake - Red lights flashes and turbo boost dips for just a moment

Gear shift down/up - No lights but turbo boost dips to 1.5 and back up. Exhaust flares

Any feathering(releasing the acceleration pedal) - exhaust flares depending on how far he depresses the accelerator. Light - may have none.

For one thing if there are red turns coming, you'd be far better off not using 830, and for another, dropping to 3rd in a 6 gear car is a bit too much... You go down to 4th, max.
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Posted: Aug 13 2014, 06:06 AM
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The unexpected happens, whether in battle or ghosts. Who is to say some guy won't decide to turn into C1/Yaesu during a wangan or yoko battle, or that a ghost course won't turn in there?

300 turns to 150 quite often in a red corner, when you brake too hard, some guy uses you as a cushion or smacks you into the wall on the way out.

Having started for 3 weeks, i don't think his main concern is TA. If it is he would most likely be making the above mistakes(braking too hard and hitting the walls). Seeing as "people getting the better of him" is more likely describing ghosts and versus, its better to give advice on recovering faster.
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Posted: Aug 13 2014, 08:58 AM
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So, you had a full-tune R34. Did you like it?
Yes: Why don't you make one again?
No: Why bother considering it?
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Posted: Aug 13 2014, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (CNR4806 @ 9 hours, 10 minutes ago)
So, you had a full-tune R34. Did you like it?
Yes: Why don't you make one again?
No: Why bother considering it?

I don't see the point in having 2 FT R34s. It's expensive and they're both going to have the same performance. It's better to play ghost battle and PvP and get better at the game.
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Posted: Aug 13 2014, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (UbeR @ 24 minutes, 2 seconds ago)
I don't see the point in having 2 FT R34s. It's expensive and they're both going to have the same performance. It's better to play ghost battle and PvP and get better at the game.

This exactly, better off FTing another car and doing a compare/contrast sorta thing.

Unless he lost his 1st FT R34
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Posted: Aug 13 2014, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE (UbeR @ 50 minutes, 23 seconds ago)
I don't see the point in having 2 FT R34s. It's expensive and they're both going to have the same performance. It's better to play ghost battle and PvP and get better at the game.

You do realize I own 2 FT'd R34s and I have no qualms about it right? fear2.gif
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Posted: Aug 13 2014, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (Aphrite @ Today, 12:06 AM)
The unexpected happens, whether in battle or ghosts. Who is to say some guy won't decide to turn into C1/Yaesu during a wangan or yoko battle, or that a ghost course won't turn in there?

300 turns to 150 quite often in a red corner, when you brake too hard, some guy uses you as a cushion or smacks you into the wall on the way out.

Having started for 3 weeks, i don't think his main concern is TA. If it is he would most likely be making the above mistakes(braking too hard and hitting the walls). Seeing as "people getting the better of him" is more likely describing ghosts and versus, its better to give advice on recovering faster.

If you're battling on wangan/yoko, you'll know where the branches are, and if you know its headed there - yoko up haneda/wangan east airport, there is no reason to to 830. And even in ghost, you have no reasons to go 830 unless its a crown.

And if you're dropping to 150 coming off a red turn you're losing way too much speed...
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Posted: Aug 14 2014, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (UbeR @ Yesterday, 6:08 PM)
I don't see the point in having 2 FT R34s. It's expensive and they're both going to have the same performance. It's better to play ghost battle and PvP and get better at the game.

They HAD a FT R34 and they have started playing MT4 3 weeks ago. Unless he had transferred his cars ages ago without playing or he's in one of the few regions that still accept transferral, that R34 of his is good is void.
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