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Lonewolf
Posted: Aug 23 2014, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (Dare @ 1 hour, 3 minutes ago)
Earlier gears tend to allow you to grind past redline a fair bit without much loss. You can prob push to 180-185 for the fd before shifting to 3rd.

Doesnt really matter though, start doesnt matter nearly as much as finish

What if it was boost off?
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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE (Dare @ 1 hour, 8 minutes ago)
Earlier gears tend to allow you to grind past redline a fair bit without much loss. You can prob push to 180-185 for the fd before shifting to 3rd.

Doesnt really matter though, start doesnt matter nearly as much as finish

Alright! Thank you sir. I'll go and give it a try next time. :)
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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 01:58 AM
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I shift before 190, there are those that shift at 7

Doesnt really matter because its the same, the lag is just that feel
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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 02:38 AM
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okay... given there IS a boost at the beginning, will it carry over throughout the entire race? (much like how you do VS mode with "boost ON"?)

Well after the boost in the first seconds of the race I think it would pretty much be the data the driver drove on the course. But there are certain instances wherein the opponent will try to grind you onto the wall or maybe try to slam you onto some traffic cars (pretty evident when taking crowns) ;)
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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE (mkdlR @ 43 minutes, 10 seconds ago)
Well after the boost in the first seconds of the race I think it would pretty much be the data the driver drove on the course. But there are certain instances wherein the opponent will try to grind you onto the wall or maybe try to slam you onto some traffic cars (pretty evident when taking crowns) ;)

yeah... i hate it when the supposedly "A.I." does that! gets me every time. La :lol:
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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 04:48 AM
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QUOTE (Lonewolf @ 4 hours, 7 minutes ago)
What if it was boost off?

Depending how clean you are then.

If you were a clean, no contact, boost off player, yeah a good start probably would help

If you're dirty, it would depend if theres a corner coming up near the start where you could get slammed into a wall
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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 05:15 AM
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I've seen an RX-7 TA at NBL using 830DG and at the start of the course, and they shift earlier on 2-3 than the expected shifting time for 5-speed users. Maybe because of the 'S' curve at the starting ramp of C1 inward :ermm:

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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 05:49 AM
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Thing is while there is one "absolute" shift point, theres pretty much a very low chance that you'll hit it every single time, so most people shift at the band where its an efficient shift.

And this band tends to be wider at lower gears, so you can get away with a slightly earlier/later shift.

Even in ta missing that perfect shift will likely lose you only a few microseconds, so unless you're challenging for wr you wont feel it that much
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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 07:32 AM
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QUOTE (mkdlR @ 2 hours, 16 minutes ago)
I've seen an RX-7 TA at NBL using 830DG and at the start of the course, and they shift earlier on 2-3 than the expected shifting time for 5-speed users. Maybe because of the 'S' curve at the starting ramp of C1 inward :ermm:

that might be at NBL CW... if you mentioned 830hp
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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE (vash944 @ 1 hour, 9 minutes ago)
that might be at NBL CW... if you mentioned 830hp

Yep, considering it leads out to Wangan..
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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE (Dare @ Yesterday, 8:48 PM)
Depending how clean you are then.

If you were a clean, no contact, boost off player, yeah a good start probably would help

If you're dirty, it would depend if theres a corner coming up near the start where you could get slammed into a wall

Hrm, gotta practice some more then...

Thanks ^_^
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Posted: Aug 23 2014, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (Spec-Vermillion @ 9 hours, 3 minutes ago)
Yep, considering it leads out to Wangan..

actually wangan route midway ends at c1 nearly at the starting point

but FD3S has some insane exiting speeds based on some TA vids

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Posted: Aug 24 2014, 09:30 PM
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My FD3s Type-R was challenged by this BNR34 from Sing. running a high grip setting (600hp) on Nagoya! I was all cocky and shit and used a 760hp setting (drift--- which i always use on Nagoya) thinking it would be a breeze icing the R34..... ended trailing about -24m at the end! I was like... WHAT?!?!?! Not to sound like a douche but I do know the course and usually run a no-wall hit lap in Nagoya. And yes, I do hold the Crown on that course in our Local Arcade. Will be trying to have a re-match later. Any suggestions how I can go about facing a high grip setting car? I'm thinking of using the same setting and try it out but I'm usually used to having a bit more slide when running the course since it has some pretty long right-hander curves. Also, i feel like I can have better exit speeds when i drift at the apex and ride it till i even out on the outer lane at the end of the curve. Besides that, I think the FD is at a disadvantage in this course. What settings do you guys usually use when running an FD in Nagoya? Thanks! ;)
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Posted: Aug 24 2014, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (GreggMD @ 12 minutes, 54 seconds ago)
My FD3s Type-R was challenged by this BNR34 from Sing. running a high grip setting (600hp) on Nagoya! I was all cocky and shit and used a 760hp setting (drift--- which i always use on Nagoya) thinking it would be a breeze icing the R34..... ended trailing about -24m at the end! I was like... WHAT?!?!?! Not to sound like a douche but I do know the course and usually run a no-wall hit lap in Nagoya. And yes, I do hold the Crown on that course in our Local Arcade. Will be trying to have a re-match later. Any suggestions how I can go about facing a high grip setting car? I'm thinking of using the same setting and try it out but I'm usually used to having a bit more slide when running the course since it has some pretty long right-hander curves. Also, i feel like I can have better exit speeds when i drift at the apex and ride it till i even out on the outer lane at the end of the curve. Besides that, I think the FD is at a disadvantage in this course. What settings do you guys usually use when running an FD in Nagoya? Thanks! ;)

Do I have the feeling that BNR34 from SGP was trolling you good, since online ghost outrun is quite hard even slapping the wrong HP setup with precise troll defensive moves

Ghost Crown is easier than online outrun so better be alert at times

the good HP setup at Nagoya is 780hp but if you want to stretch it further you can get it to 800hp since you're using FD3S

I suggest check its lines carefully the only way to win is outrun it exactly on straights after the ramp down and do the c**k-blocking tactics till you reach finish line and re-do the line perfectly on different ghost data
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Posted: Aug 24 2014, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE (vash944 @ 6 minutes, 42 seconds ago)
the good HP setup at Nagoya is 780hp but if you want to stretch it further you can get it to 800hp since you're using FD3S

... "and re-do the line perfectly on different ghost data"

Alright, I'll try to run a 780 first then maybe bump up to 800 once i get the hang of it.

noob question: how do i "redo" ghost data?!
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Posted: Aug 24 2014, 10:06 PM
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Nagoya and fukuoka are dangerous tracks to take lightly, 600/hg works well there, if you know what you're doing.

Of course the downside is if your opponent knows what they're doing you're prob screwed as well


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For ghost/battle, more hp isnt always useful...
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Posted: Aug 24 2014, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE (Dare @ 12 minutes, 49 seconds ago)
Nagoya and fukuoka are dangerous tracks to take lightly, 600/hg works well there, if you know what you're doing.

Of course the downside is if your opponent knows what they're doing you're prob screwed as well


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For ghost/battle, more hp isnt always useful...

So how do you do a good run using a high grip set-up?! I mean.. Do you keep the lines and rarely lift or you're just in it to be a big d*ck to others? haha
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Posted: Aug 24 2014, 10:25 PM
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More grip just means you can take slightly tighter lines, depending on the course it also means you're pretty much going to cut off options for other players.

So yeah, both to take lines a d to be a bit of a troll
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Posted: Aug 25 2014, 12:18 AM
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Hm~, I'll try that sometime on Fukuoka.
I do wonder if that is going to work on C1... :shifty:

What I usually do is to match the ghost's HP. From my experience, the higher I go, the more disadvantageous it is.
I'm not wholly sure if boost plays a factor here, but for me, it is one reason why.
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Posted: Aug 25 2014, 02:37 AM
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I prefer setting up with TA settings usually going one bar lower or higher dependent on the track
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Posted: Aug 25 2014, 03:41 AM
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QUOTE (GreggMD @ 5 hours, 52 minutes ago)
Alright, I'll try to run a 780 first then maybe bump up to 800 once i get the hang of it.

noob question: how do i "redo" ghost data?!

you re-do a run this time a different one but if you find a default/unused data on nagoya it should be darn easy

as sir dare mentioned earlier 600/HG setting can make a troll line in certain areas in nagoya if you're not careful

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Posted: Aug 26 2014, 12:22 AM
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so by "re-do", did you mean finding your ghost and challenging it online??? :unsure:
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Posted: Aug 26 2014, 01:45 AM
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The ghost data is basically the last time you played that course, in other words everytime you play, you're recording new ghost data. Redoing is just playing that course again, do it till you're happy with your run if you want, personally it wont make that much of a diff unless a) you dont want people beating your ghost (still wont really matter, unless you manage to set a troll run) B) you want a clean crown run c) you crashed near the end of the old run and dont want to look bad when people challenge your ghost


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Posted: Aug 26 2014, 02:21 AM
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alright. Got it! Thank you, sir.
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