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> Mazda Thread II: Ask anything about Mazdas, FD, FC, MS6, RX8, Cosmo, MX5
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Posted: Sep 29 2014, 04:34 AM
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QUOTE (Deskyx @ 32 minutes, 24 seconds ago)
Little question, why does my FD get beaten by everything off the line? It could possibly be my shift work, but it feels so sluggish when the race starts.

I think it has to do with the acceleration. A bit slow maybe? It happens to me too, but I'm not sure.
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Posted: Sep 29 2014, 04:48 AM
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QUOTE (Deskyx @ 46 minutes, 4 seconds ago)
Little question, why does my FD get beaten by everything off the line? It could possibly be my shift work, but it feels so sluggish when the race starts.

FD has slow acceleration from the start because of its transmission. 5-MT cars have longer gear ratio in think in the second gear than the second gear of a 6-MT car. FD has good acceleration overall.
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Posted: Sep 29 2014, 04:51 AM
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I think it's to do with the gearing, I always see the boost go down and my speed stall when I'm shifting in the FD.
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Posted: Sep 29 2014, 04:55 AM
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It thought it was strange because R33s and R32s and even other FDs out accelerate me as well. Also, is the RX8 classed as a heavy or light car? Because I see rammers use that car often. IRL the SE3P and FD3S are only 100 kgs difference max, but the FD here seems to be as light as an R2.
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Posted: Sep 29 2014, 04:58 AM
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QUOTE (Deskyx @ 2 minutes, 38 seconds ago)
It thought it was strange because R33s and R32s and even other FDs out accelerate me as well. Also, is the RX8 classed as a heavy or light car? Because I see rammers use that car often. IRL the SE3P and FD3S are only 100 kgs difference max, but the FD here seems to be as light as an R2.

first, don't try and bring irl stats into this. because the rx8 should be slower by a mile if that was the case

r32's out accelerating you yeah probably, r33 is a little odd, are you sure the accel wasnt broken on your machine (seen it before where it'll only sense like 70% accel)

rx8 i'd say is mid-light weight

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Posted: Sep 29 2014, 06:20 AM
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R32 accel has always been good, the rotaries dont have great accel either, so yeah no surprise


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And its not that rammers use the rx8 because its a good ramming car, its just the car they happened to buy
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Posted: Sep 29 2014, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (Deskyx @ Today, 4:02 AM)
Little question, why does my FD get beaten by everything off the line? It could possibly be my shift work, but it feels so sluggish when the race starts.

There are craploads of reasons on why you were outrunned at the start

1. Opponents have better acceleration than you, sure... BNR32, E9 or even S30 might outrun you at the start
2. If you suspect shifting then probably you aren't shifting correctly thus sluggish in rotaries has a beep that warns you to shift up just not to let that beep take too long unless 5th gear
2b. Do remember too early or too late will not maximize your accel rate and if you feel why even the same FD opponent still outruns you that you shift timing is incorrect


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Posted: Sep 29 2014, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE (Deskyx @ Today, 4:55 AM)
It thought it was strange because R33s and R32s and even other FDs out accelerate me as well. Also, is the RX8 classed as a heavy or light car? Because I see rammers use that car often. IRL the SE3P and FD3S are only 100 kgs difference max, but the FD here seems to be as light as an R2.

If its battles then only answer is because of boost

How does boost system works? Unfortunately even after a decade of max tune only the producers have the answers to it and all we have are just speculations

For RX8, its a mid-light weight car with easy handling, balanced weight on car, 6 gear cars tend to accel better than 5 gear cars, good TA capability, slightly better than evos and good reason to bandwagon on it
FD is basically a 5 gear light weight RX8 but demands more precision
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Posted: Sep 30 2014, 04:03 AM
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Apologies for sounding like a noob, so do I let the car in 2nd all the way till 180 KM/h to start 3rd pretty high, or should I shift immediately for traction? Or somewhere in the middle?
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Posted: Sep 30 2014, 04:11 AM
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QUOTE (Deskyx @ 7 minutes, 13 seconds ago)
Apologies for sounding like a noob, so do I let the car in 2nd all the way till 180 KM/h to start 3rd pretty high, or should I shift immediately for traction? Or somewhere in the middle?

i usually leave it in gear til it beeps (its usually around 170-180kmh depending on your HP settings)

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Posted: Sep 30 2014, 04:40 PM
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For all my 5-gear cars, I leave it in 2nd all the way until I hit 180 km/h, then I shift. Doesn't apply in Hakone though.
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Posted: Oct 8 2014, 09:36 AM
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Well vash, e9, rx8 and r34 are the common pick for braking due to their good accel, decent weight and good handling

But the cosmo is different, interestingly during battles before that GO cosmo are always at least +1m advantage in front and they accel slightly faster than above mentioned cars
To add on, being the heaviest car in game in a 1v1 braking situation all you need to do is leave your gear at 2, at that low speed range and with such weight i dare say no car can push pass cosmo in that scenario

That kid that i rammed basically got the idea that this was no rx7 and simply gave up, scrubs just need to be taught a lesson and they will know their place
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Posted: Oct 8 2014, 04:25 PM
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So less gears equals more acceleration? That's what I think......

I wonder how the other 4-gear cars fare......
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Posted: Oct 8 2014, 06:49 PM
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f**k the cosmo...............ok i lied
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Posted: Oct 8 2014, 06:52 PM
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Less gears accelerate slower... Cosmo just starts in front coz its long...


And n643... Dude really, no need for language like thay
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Posted: Oct 8 2014, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (Dare @ 1 hour, 45 minutes ago)
Less gears accelerate slower... Cosmo just starts in front coz its long...


And n643... Dude really, no need for language like thay

it was a troll joke sorry lol
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Posted: Oct 10 2014, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE (CarlRaven @ Oct 8 2014, 04:25 PM)
So less gears equals more acceleration? That's what I think......

I wonder how the other 4-gear cars fare......

Nope... 4 gear cars have the disadvantage regarding acceleration, one of the advantages was less strenous in shifting

But most of them are battle hardened tho
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Posted: Oct 10 2014, 07:42 AM
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Ok i will rephrase it precisely what i want it to be, cosmo starting accels slightly faster than bandwagons just enough to gain that slight advantage to swing in and block them
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Posted: Oct 10 2014, 08:04 AM
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ok fact, cosmo is not a car where u wanna beat the.12min tokyo metro ta, u can go for the fd/rx8

its a.great car for battle as long as u screw up & end in complete stop, better then my svx, celsior & aristo

4 gears of goodness that u hate, trust me one of my nicknames is mr.4gears & cosmo something or something cosmo

i.have a cosmo in mt4 int'l, but not in china as im still looking for a red one (to complete my red RX series, i only have a black one)

edit: also i always get shifter problems in some arcades, which is great if its busy cuz u can hog.the machine.all to yourself lol

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Posted: Oct 10 2014, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE (RayoK @ 54 minutes, 9 seconds ago)
Ok i will rephrase it precisely what i want it to be, cosmo starting accels slightly faster than bandwagons just enough to gain that slight advantage to swing in and block them

More of the front end is long enough lol

If you know what you're doing you can avoid that early block
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