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> Bayshore Route, The real Japan Bayshore Route
Nomake Wan
Posted: May 13 2012, 04:56 PM
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While I think the opening post of this thread is absurd, I guess it's okay that it developed into something worthy of conversation. So I'll at least share that I have an in-car video of a Supra doing over 330 km/h on the 'Wangan'. I'll have to check back on it and find out specifically which section it was since it was many years ago and my memory of the event has faded.

In any case, my little contribution. I would consider uploading the video for everyone to see except that I would need to fulfill the following criteria:

1.) The video must be available to me (it's on my desktop on the other side of the country right now).
2.) The video must reveal no license plates of vehicles associated with the persons who took the video.
3.) The person who actually did the filming must approve of my uploading it.

I'll see if I can at least get #1 taken care of by FTP or something, but if there are plates I'll have to figure out how the heck to edit them and I'm not gonna do that on a netbook. :lol: Thankfully I'm still acquainted with the filmer so #3 shouldn't be a problem if #2 is taken care of. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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Posted: May 13 2012, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (ATRUM_Neto @ Today, 7:36 PM)
The "real" Devil Z and Blackbird part of the MC?

the red 280ZX and the whine red 964 porsche turbo

(IMG:http://images.eurotuner.com/eventcoverage/eurp_0704_37_z+tokyo_auto_salon+mid_night_club_porsche_turbo.jpg)

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Posted: May 13 2012, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (S12 Drifter @ Today, 7:02 PM)
the red 280ZX and the whine red 964 porsche turbo

(IMG:http://images.eurotuner.com/eventcoverage/eurp_0704_37_z+tokyo_auto_salon+mid_night_club_porsche_turbo.jpg)

(IMG:http://tanetane92.web.infoseek.co.jp/034911.jpg)

:facepalm:

I should have specified. I meant the specific vehicle used by said racer, and if they where part of MC.
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Posted: May 13 2012, 07:31 PM
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Wait, the 'real' Devil Z was a Midnight Blue S30, right? Unless I've been believing it wrong, that it's another color.

One more thing, what is the relation, Wangan Midnight based on the real Devil Z, or the Devil Z based on Wangan Midnight?
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Posted: May 14 2012, 03:19 AM
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QUOTE (Rotary Tuner @ Yesterday, 11:31 PM)
Wait, the 'real' Devil Z was a Midnight Blue S30, right? Unless I've been believing it wrong, that it's another color.

One more thing, what is the relation, Wangan Midnight based on the real Devil Z, or the Devil Z based on Wangan Midnight?

i believe this was the REAL devil Z it was painted a few other colors including dark bule, white and dark red. it's hit 186mph before.


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Wait, the 'real' Devil Z was a Midnight Blue S30, right? Unless I've been believing it wrong, that it's another color.

One more thing, what is the relation, Wangan Midnight based on the real Devil Z, or the Devil Z based on Wangan Midnight?

the Devil Z came first, then wangan midnight
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Posted: May 14 2012, 03:27 AM
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i believe this was the REAL devil Z it was painted a few other colors including dark bule, white and dark red. it's hit 186mph before.


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the Devil Z came first, then wangan midnight

I'm guessing painted because of all the crashing it's done, right? Now I'm intrigued to find out which parts of Wangan Midnight are accounts of true events.
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Posted: May 14 2012, 04:04 AM
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QUOTE (ATRUM_Neto @ 36 minutes, 53 seconds ago)
I'm guessing painted because of all the crashing it's done, right? Now I'm intrigued to find out which parts of Wangan Midnight are accounts of true events.

Either Michiharu Kusunoki (the author of WM) personally knew some of the members of MC or even the Z driver himself, or he went to observe the MC's meetups in secret. I could be wrong, so someone correct me on this matter if I am.
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Posted: May 14 2012, 04:24 AM
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QUOTE (Nomake Wan @ Yesterday, 4:56 PM)
While I think the opening post of this thread is absurd, I guess it's okay that it developed into something worthy of conversation. So I'll at least share that I have an in-car video of a Supra doing over 330 km/h on the 'Wangan'. I'll have to check back on it and find out specifically which section it was since it was many years ago and my memory of the event has faded.

In any case, my little contribution. I would consider uploading the video for everyone to see except that I would need to fulfill the following criteria:

1.) The video must be available to me (it's on my desktop on the other side of the country right now).
2.) The video must reveal no license plates of vehicles associated with the persons who took the video.
3.) The person who actually did the filming must approve of my uploading it.

I'll see if I can at least get #1 taken care of by FTP or something, but if there are plates I'll have to figure out how the heck to edit them and I'm not gonna do that on a netbook. :lol: Thankfully I'm still acquainted with the filmer so #3 shouldn't be a problem if #2 is taken care of. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Thanks. ;)


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QUOTE (S12 Drifter @ Yesterday, 6:02 PM)
the red 280ZX and the whine red 964 porsche turbo

(IMG:http://images.eurotuner.com/eventcoverage/eurp_0704_37_z+tokyo_auto_salon+mid_night_club_porsche_turbo.jpg)

(IMG:http://tanetane92.web.infoseek.co.jp/034911.jpg)

Where and when was the picture taken? :thumbsup:
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Posted: May 14 2012, 05:10 AM
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Since we're talking about the Wangan here, are there tollbooths that let you pass by instantly instead of having to stop at the toll gates?
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Posted: May 14 2012, 06:33 AM
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If I remember correctly- yes you can get an E pass, however the congestion that builds up before the toll booth is reason enough to slow down. It would be suicidally impossible to try to thread the needle into the E pass lane considering you normally can't tell exactly how much traffic has built up before the booths, not to mention your car would be photographed as it smashed by and the toll areas are great places for police to wait and watch the behavior of motorists. Obviously if you're traveling in a group of high performance cars in the middle of the night there's probably something up.
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Posted: May 15 2012, 03:59 AM
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The fun thing is that, if I'm recalling correctly, the E-pass device looks like a floppy drive. :lol: I remember searching for something on an SVX for reference and seeing a floppy drive in one. It ended up being related to the system for using the metro expressway.

Speaking of which, I got permission to upload that video! So enjoy!

YOUTUBE ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLpsDb71g2c )
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Posted: May 15 2012, 05:31 AM
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Intense!
The Bayshore route main function is to reduce congestion around Tokyo especially Yokohane Route, only the Midnight Club use it as a circuit racing. By the way, the Midnight club spells as Midnight Club or Mid Night Club? :unsure:

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Posted: May 15 2012, 06:13 AM
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Intense!
The Bayshore route main function is to reduce congestion around Tokyo especially Yokohane Route, only the Midnight Club use it as a circuit racing. By the way, the Midnight club spells as Midnight Club or Mid Night Club? :unsure:

Not circuit racing exactly, 'cause it's one hell of a long loop if you're going to consider it a circuit, but formalities aside, the essence is there.

If I'm not mistaken, the latter is used.
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Posted: May 15 2012, 07:56 AM
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Was the a Supra part of MC as well?

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Posted: May 15 2012, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE (ATRUM_Neto @ 20 minutes, 45 seconds ago)
Was the a Supra part of MC as well?

the supra in the video is not a part of MC. That video was made long after the MC dissolved as you can tell from the models of cars they pass being post 99.

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Posted: May 15 2012, 08:20 AM
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Did a bit of searching, they had a variety of cars in the club, including imports like Ferraris and Porsches (like the 964 BlackBird above, if it's credible information). They also had local cars, like Zs (was the Devil Z really part of MC?), RX-7s, and also Supras. Apparently they had 70+ members in their prime, but growing law enforcement cut down that number.

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Posted: May 15 2012, 09:01 AM
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Did a bit of searching, they had a variety of cars in the club, including imports like Ferraris and Porsches (like the 964 BlackBird above, if it's credible information). They also had local cars, like Zs (was the Devil Z really part of MC?), RX-7s, and also Supras. Apparently they had 70+ members in their prime, but growing law enforcement cut down that number.

More reading here.

Gotta agree with one of the comments, this would make a good documentary of the now dead Wangan racing scene.
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Gotta agree with one of the comments, this would make a good documentary of the now dead Wangan racing scene.

That's something worth doing, but then again, the racing scene in the Wangan only grew because of Mid Night Club, and the topic of the documentary will nevertheless redirect to the club, but that will be impossible, because none of the members, under any circumstances (except for that guy in Top Secret), would disclose anything about the club and their involvement after the incident. Well, we might have this one source, but it's not enough to cover the whole existence of MC. Post-MC, not also too sure about that.

tl;dr: No dice on a documentary, insufficient sources.
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Posted: May 15 2012, 04:22 PM
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That's something worth doing, but then again, the racing scene in the Wangan only grew because of Mid Night Club, and the topic of the documentary will nevertheless redirect to the club, but that will be impossible, because none of the members, under any circumstances (except for that guy in Top Secret), would disclose anything about the club and their involvement after the incident. Well, we might have this one source, but it's not enough to cover the whole existence of MC. Post-MC, not also too sure about that.

tl;dr: No dice on a documentary, insufficient sources.

Well lots id documentaries have "anonymous" sources, so as long as ex-members are willing to participate, I could see that happening. Captain J, could you at least divulge what model car your ex-MC acquaintance drove?
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Gotta agree with one of the comments, this would make a good documentary of the now dead Wangan racing scene.

Dead? I'm not so sure about that. My video was taken relatively recently, within half a decade. Do you have any sources or references for the so-called 'death' of Wangan racing?
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Dead? I'm not so sure about that. My video was taken relatively recently, within half a decade. Do you have any sources or references for the so-called 'death' of Wangan racing?

Perhaps dead wasn't the correct description. As for references, all I have is the bit of research I did years ago, as well as the lack of current videos when I was looking for them. No actual info from actual drivers, so you can be the judge of my statement. Perhaps it's better to say that it's not as popular as it once was?
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Posted: May 15 2012, 08:52 PM
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Enforcement, especially by way of online videos and such, has increased. Not to mention, I doubt very many people film their runs and share them freely anymore. So rather than say 'dead', I'll say that they've merely become quieter.

I highly doubt anything is really going to kill the scene. People will still race.
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Posted: May 16 2012, 07:20 AM
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I95 is the new wangan :lol: :P

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QUOTE (S12 Drifter @ 6 hours, 24 minutes ago)
I95 is the new wangan :lol: :P

You spelled 405 wrong. :-"
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Posted: May 17 2012, 07:31 AM
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I have a question, most of the cars fiction or not that capable to perform 300km/h on Wangan Route(even the Devil Z) have 800 HP or more. They're great but with plain color, no vinyls, no neon lights and no big stereo. I'm asking if there are cars with mods like the ones we can make in Need For Speed: Underground ever exist on the Wangan Route? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSHefnVVB4c

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