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hey man dont worry, velocity didnt challenge u to play himself mainly prolly because u can never see his tail lights even with boost on, so..u know what, before u come onto forums and complain about boost advantage, strengthen ur skills first

That's wonderful news. I'm glad you think someone can destroy me in a game. I fail to see the correlation between my opinion on HP undercutting, and being challenged to a boost on race at the same HP settings.

Let's look at it:

"I don't like it when people undercut HP settings, I think it's cheap."

"Oh yeah? Well my friend/I/we/chuck norris can beat you in a race using the same HP".

.....How are the two related? Wouldn't you challenge me to undercut someone and say they'll still win to prove your point?

Oh right, they're not related. You guys just instinctively think that an unrelated difference of opinion is settled by racing 0s and 1s.

This post has been edited by MaxX on May 27 2008, 08:03 AM

lol i never said i was good player. im not saying im better than anyone, but dont worry i played you before 1v1 already at pmall and i remember winning every game . i just made the post, cuz my friend asked me to do this favor. no one is asking your reasons or whatever. he (9 LEI) just wanted to prove to you that he can play you with the same HP settings and beat you. you can either accept it or not.

This post has been edited by Veloxity on May 27 2008, 11:21 AM

I still don't see his reasoning for wanting to race me. It's not like I said "this fag 9LEI uses low HP, what a scrub", I don't even know the guy, and I don't know if I've ever seen his car, ever.

You guys have a funny way of trying to pick fights.

I live in sauga, I'm not wasting the $25 in gas to come race someone I've never met. I'm usually at orbit on saturdays during midday. If you're there at the same time and want to race, great. If not, who cares?

I also still fail to see how racing me at the SAME HP = a counterargument to me having a problem with people who constantly UNDERCUT HP....that makes no sense at all. You guys really have no points to prove here at all, you're just picking fights for reasons beyond me.

This post has been edited by MaxX on May 27 2008, 01:11 PM

Veloxity makes a point but the way he is expressing himself is retarded so I will just say it for him.

What he is pointing out is that since you are complaining that people are only winning because they use lower hp (catching up to you due to boost), he would be more than happy to demonstrate to you that his friend can still beat you using the same hp, hence making your assumption that they are only winning through using a lower hp, false.

Besides its funny how you you are complaining that its cheap to use a lower hp to battle during boost , and esp in Yokohane...because the thing is...the only reason they are using a lower hp is due to the abuse of boost on. For example, on Yokohane Downward all that matters in that race is the final red turn....I mean I can be 300 meters ahead through the middle of the race and still have noobs catching up to me by the beginning of that red turn, trying to slam me into the outside wall. So whats the solution to that? Go at a lower hp and block out that red turn so no one can take the inside of you and ram the hell of you.

Because you know what? Thats the only way to win on Yokohane downward with boost on if you have the lead since its mostly a straight line in the finally part which allows players to catch up.

And oh this is coming from someone well within a second of the world record on both ways of Yokohane. Battlewise, I can also say that I lose stars when I get 3rd or 4th....so I really hope there is no 'you don't know wth you are talking about' accusations'.....

What he is pointing out is that since you are complaining that people are only winning because they use lower hp (catching up to you due to boost), he would be more than happy to demonstrate to you that his friend can still beat you using the same hp, hence making your assumption that they are only winning through using a lower hp, false.

Point out where I say "these people are only winning because they're using lower hp", please.

Also, why would his friend have to beat me if I never called him out specifically? Was I assuming that a person whom I've never seen before is only beating me because he uses a lower HP? I've never raced/seen this guy, how could him beating me at the same HP prove anything?

It'd prove that someone can beat me at the same HP settings....whoopee, that's not exactly news.

I don't mention wins or losses anywhere, nor do I mention names, I just say what I think of the idea. In those kinds of races, sometimes I lose, sometimes I win. Just the same as if it was a match with everyone at the same HP. The main difference obviously being that when racing at the same HP, you're on a level playing field, more or less.

I'm also not talking about Yoko specifically, I'm talking about almost every course, which I've mentionned before. I realize that Yoko down ends that way, you don't have to explain that to me, I've experienced a last-second loss because of that turn enough times.

Undercutting to me isn't someone going 740 on C1 and someone else going 720, or 820/800 on yoko, or something small. I know that there are just HP preferences and some people race at different settings, that's fine.

What I don't see as perticularly fair is when, for example, a Yoko UP race happens and there are four different HP settings ranging from 740-820, picked in succession for highest to lowest.

Player 1 chooses 820, player 2 then chooses 800, player 3 then chooses 760, etc. This isn't HP choice based on preference, it's HP choice based on who'll have the highest handling advantage in a boost on match, which I personally see as unnecessary.

I don't know why I'm explaining myself again, I've said it so much. I'll also reiterate that I still don't see why I'm being challenged, after explaining and throwing out your notion that I'm cocky enough to say that I only lose to undercutters.....I don't think anyone in their right mind would have the gall to say something to that effect. If they do, THEN that person needs to be challenged and put in his place.

I just had an opinion, not an axe to grind with anyone. That's obviously saying more than some people here though.

This post has been edited by MaxX on May 27 2008, 02:43 PM

I don't play much at P-mall, but I've seen MaxX play before and vice versa. You all have a point in my opinion.

Trying not to be off topic of anything, but my way of play is that I can choose whatever HP. HK's style of play is really interesting and I'd like to try that one day. But if I win and people start complaining how I'm taking advantage of boost, handling, etc. then there's no fun in doing that. You go there to have fun. That's it.

I believe there's a reason why the game has so many power and handling settings, ranging from HG to DG. I don't think anyone made a rule where you have to play 820hp in Wangan or Yokohane or use 740/760 in Osaka. I believe it's a trend, and people like me will try to follow that because all my opponents are doing it.

When I play C1 in story mode and in Hakone, sometimes I have a hard time with 720HP on Balance. Like that time it was a 4-way battle in Hakone, I really wanted to choose HG. Why? Because I've never played Hakone. But I sticked with like whatever everyone chose. Why? So people won't complain.

Oh btw. This is probably the only post I'm gonna make bout undercutting HP and w/e here. If you don't like my opinion, then I'm sorry. If it doesn't make sense, then I'm sorry. If people like what I think about this, then yay.

maxx...for the yoko down left turn...just grind the apex...i mean like literally grinding it...there is no way the opponent can pass u if its done well (u might hv to brake for 820 and thus a bit risky...because if u hit the wall...your car bounces and this you are not grinding it anyway ...so i say at most 800 is your safest bet)

i guess we should talk about how to counter these people (apart from lowering your HP as well) instead because i am sure this is the trend already haha

When do you guys go to PD?

I'm seldom ever there, but when I am, nobody is.

Only once were there people there, and one guy....I think with the car name NINJA, noticed my car's name, pointed and said "ohhh you're MaxX!"....hell, it may even be you, I don't know.

Either way, having more people to play with would be nice.

Can someone also get them to fix the third cabinet? The artifacts on the display are ridiculous. I feel lucky that I saw some poor sap play on it that me wasting a credit on it.

i am going to PD this friday and/or saturday

it's strange i always see your ghost and when i check the date and time of the ghost, its always that i leave too early or arrive too late on that day...haha

and no i am not ninja, i hv seen you in lovegetty a while ago but never saw u play

one of my friend is going on friday for sure, and if u are going, then i will try to ask more people to come (but don't count on it...its so hard to see 820 already ==)

one thing about PD management is that they don't fix stuff, or even if u tell them, they won't try or is just incapable of doing it. i told them about the pedals of ID4 already, but they didn't fix it...i'll try again and ask about the 3rd machine...but again its PD ==

just tell me when you are going so hopefully you can bring some people too so we can hv a meet or sth

i love reading this thread all the drama ^^ btw i m jus wondering MaxX do u go on ir??

ROFL
@maxx ; is the ninja you're talking about a r34? and the guy driving it likes to wear big shaded glasses? cause if it is, i hope you know that guy likes to start shit with everyone cause he believes if he has the money he can do anything. you should watch him play at gety its quite hilarious. he leaves cussing in the air LOL

@fame ; of course people love to read this, its like bennz's old tpm fourm but with more people AHAHA




& on a side note
the 3rd machine at pmall - the shifter's loose. so about half the time, you cant shift into 4th and 6th. think the tech is supposed to go thursday to fix it
& they changed all the pricing to the same thing again. so regardless of which machine you're on now, its all the same price ):

This post has been edited by cocolate on May 27 2008, 10:46 PM

MaxX was just pointing out a few things... that are quite true and some others believe as well... no need for u guys to flame him THAT badly...
=P

He never named anyone anyway.

>.<

i pity him. heehehe

This post has been edited by Dare on May 27 2008, 10:50 PM

Nothing beats Bennz's TPM guestbook

lol ninja use to always love to challenge me on osaka 1on1, because thats the only map he picks so i pick that map since he doesnt know how to play any other map it wouldnt be fair since he cant even catch up with boost for other maps. then after he only challenges me or the okay players if there are at least 3 or more players in total.

I can go to PD on friday, but it'd have to be in the evening because I work until 9, so I'd get there at about 9:20-9:30.

Nobody in my area plays that I know of, the only people that I race with are all markham-based. So it'll just be me and my gf, who also plays MT anyway.

If you guys stay there until those kinds of hours, or can, then you'll see me there this friday.

Minnie: Now that you mention it, Ninja raced once, and then like, he got up so fast that I didn't even see him leave the machine. So he might've gotten up in a fit of rage, I don't know.

This post has been edited by MaxX on May 27 2008, 11:06 PM

I only race when theres 3 other people playing already, even though i'm going to get owned. I just find the game alot better when 4 people's playing

Minnie, by same price for all machines, what's the actual price now? I think some machine needed 2 bucks to renew, and one of them needed 1.50? what's it all set to now?

whats pd anwyayz??

and for maxx hes good, ppl just think of new ways to try and beat him by lowering horsepower. Not skillful but at least they have new ideas

fourm, guestbook MEH LOL
i was eating mcdonalds while i was typing that. so mcdonalds/food>mt anyday =D

@vxity
hahahah its okay he tried to start things LONG time ago when id3 was at its highest peak =D and even then, he would cuss in the air (:

@ djnocturnal
well you start your game for $1
renew your card is $1.50
open from a discard is $2
open a new card is $1.50

@keljai
pd = playdium
its across from square one in sauga

This post has been edited by cocolate on May 28 2008, 07:23 AM

pd has lots of fishies =D

lies..a house full of them

ok no problem i can stay pretty late. see u on friday then!

I'm not touching the third machine though!

Or the 4th one if I can avoid it too, it doesn't seem to like to stay in 3rd/5th.

haha ok the wheel on the 3rd machine is not aligned too

I was curious about where NINJA plays... I was thinking he was a Gety player... Now that MaxX and cocolate mention PD and Pacific Mall, and his arrogance, I want to have another race with him!

The first time I saw him was at Funland two months ago. I was usually doing story mode waiting for a challenge, then finally NINJA shows up. Thinking he can defeat me in Osaka, since I was so lazy in trying to race Eiji, he lost to me in the same course 7 times. I was not sure what he was trying to prove, but anyways, after losing the 7th time, he TA'ed out the door.

Erm... he nearly forgot his card and huge glasses...

BACK ON TOPIC: Anyways some of you know me as KI of Team Kanto from FL, who knows "the puppy"... (TPM know him)

It's been a two weeks since I've played; maybe I'll drop by at Pacific Mall on Friday. Hope to see some TPM people there! =D

This post has been edited by .ki on May 28 2008, 10:07 PM