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QUOTE (battousaiii @ Feb 5 2008, 12:01 PM) | yes you do and it's not dirty. it's call defending. it's used in real racing too.
and i totally agree with sole2100, boost on is fun. |
This is where I disagree.
The reason you're racing boost off is because you think that you can perform better and hit better lines and make a faster time than your opponent, right? Skill vs. skill.
If the racer who's behind takes a faster line and gains, he's proving to be the faster racer and is proving that he should be the one ahead because he's performing better. So let him by and try to pass him by making better lines yourself.
Why would you block in a race intended to show who can take the better line? You're just proving that you, infact, are the slower car and can't own up to losing because of it, so you decide to ram the car instead. That's not fair in a boost off setting.
Blocking boost off is ridiculous because save for hitting traffic or a wall, the speed increase from a better line is miniscule at best, small enough that the person who's behind can be easily blocked off because he's gaining so slowly.
Honestly, I'd probably win 99% of my boost off matches if I started the race ahead and decided to block, it's just too damn cheap. Boost on, the cars gain much faster, AND you're given a handling increase when you're behind (which decreases as you get closer), so passing a car is much easier while being pushed.
And you're wrong, players who block a car and impede its line are given penalties in real racing. This happens in F1 alot when a car who is going to pass is blocked off intentionally. The rule is to actually allow the person who's passing you, to pass, as both a safety precaution and out of fairness. The reason he's going to pass you is because he's performing better, so live with it, suck up your pride, and let him pass.
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QUOTE (MaxX @ Today at 4:08 PM) | This is where I disagree.
The reason you're racing boost off is because you think that you can perform better and hit better lines and make a faster time than your opponent, right? Skill vs. skill.
If the racer who's behind takes a faster line and gains, he's proving to be the faster racer and is proving that he should be the one ahead because he's performing better. So let him by and try to pass him by making better lines yourself.
Why would you block in a race intended to show who can take the better line? You're just proving that you, infact, are the slower car and can't own up to losing because of it, so you decide to ram the car instead. That's not fair in a boost off setting.
Blocking boost off is ridiculous because save for hitting traffic or a wall, the speed increase from a better line is miniscule at best, small enough that the person who's behind can be easily blocked off because he's gaining so slowly.
Honestly, I'd probably win 99% of my boost off matches if I started the race ahead and decided to block, it's just too damn cheap. Boost on, the cars gain much faster, AND you're given a handling increase when you're behind (which decreases as you get closer), so passing a car is much easier while being pushed.
And you're wrong, players who block a car and impede its line are given penalties in real racing. This happens in F1 alot when a car who is going to pass is blocked off intentionally. The rule is to actually allow the person who's passing you, to pass, as both a safety precaution and out of fairness. The reason he's going to pass you is because he's performing better, so live with it, suck up your pride, and let him pass. |
if you want to compare skill or line or whatever go play TA and compare TA times battle is battle...blocking and ramming is a part of it...whether boost is off or on it always will be whole point of battling a stranger is to win anyway possible.. and having fun in the process but id rather choose boost on, more fun to me.. ramming my friends in different ways and finding new ways to battle
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It's quite an enigma whether to consider blocking in boost off a "crime" or not because of what they call human perception. But then again, not all people share the same concept about "playing." Some would give out the usual witty shitty retort "it's just a game jeez, so whether boost on or off I'll block you if you pass me," and others would spit out a hot "where's the pride in that? In real life racing you can't do that."
It however contradicts the entire idea of choosing boost off (summarizes and produces the word skill.) If you're a clean player, your obvious intent is to outrun your opponent using your skill, a bit of luck, and your lines. If you find your opponent gaining on you and you block him, it defeats your intent to prove that you're faster. So why opt for boost off in the first place?
People also wake up at the wrong side of the bed too, so tough luck if you're the better player and somehow, a truck finds a way and teleports to your line resulting to an unfair loss. Suck it up and play again, try avoiding the truck next time if you want to prove your superiority.
People play to have fun, yes that's universal, and that's where boost on kicks in. It gives everyone a fighting chance, noob or pro, as well as adding more flavor to the game (such as blocking when nearing the finish line to avoid stupid outruns which can be classified also as skill)
TA's are to determine the best lines. Boost off's are to determine who adapts better with traffic, it's an entire different story altogether, y r der no twaffic if u do stweet reycing?
This one takes the cake though. --> "Those that hate boost on, are normally people thats scared of losing."
There's a really simple way to prevent that though, anticipate, block, ram in the end.
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QUOTE (MaxX @ Yesterday at 10:08 PM) | This is where I disagree.
The reason you're racing boost off is because you think that you can perform better and hit better lines and make a faster time than your opponent, right? Skill vs. skill.
If the racer who's behind takes a faster line and gains, he's proving to be the faster racer and is proving that he should be the one ahead because he's performing better. So let him by and try to pass him by making better lines yourself.
Why would you block in a race intended to show who can take the better line? You're just proving that you, infact, are the slower car and can't own up to losing because of it, so you decide to ram the car instead. That's not fair in a boost off setting.
Blocking boost off is ridiculous because save for hitting traffic or a wall, the speed increase from a better line is miniscule at best, small enough that the person who's behind can be easily blocked off because he's gaining so slowly.
Honestly, I'd probably win 99% of my boost off matches if I started the race ahead and decided to block, it's just too damn cheap. Boost on, the cars gain much faster, AND you're given a handling increase when you're behind (which decreases as you get closer), so passing a car is much easier while being pushed.
And you're wrong, players who block a car and impede its line are given penalties in real racing. This happens in F1 alot when a car who is going to pass is blocked off intentionally. The rule is to actually allow the person who's passing you, to pass, as both a safety precaution and out of fairness. The reason he's going to pass you is because he's performing better, so live with it, suck up your pride, and let him pass. |
i agree with MaxX he is right about everything but anyway is just a game. right??
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Well boost on makes the match more exciting. But sometimes get piss off when people won by luck.
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QUOTE (Kenji @ Yesterday at 9:40 PM) | Worst still, some resorts to ramming the moment the race started and every single races (except Hakone and Osaka) will most probably end up in Wangan line... =.= Thus, boost on FTW. By keeping races boost on, we learn how to block during cornering and for a R34 driver like me, minimize the chances of my car from being cushioned by opponents... |
lol, sounds like IDV3. But seriously, I've raced this one asshole that would run you into the wall with his R34 if you tried slipping past him. I'm not talking being defensive, I'm talking ramming until he loses most of his speed... I blame Xeo, he has corrupted T.O. players with this driving style XD!
But seriously, boost on boost off, either way there gonna be BS that will piss you off.
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QUOTE (Spike Razzor @ Today at 4:50 PM) | lol, sounds like IDV3. But seriously, I've raced this one asshole that would run you into the wall with his R34 if you tried slipping past him. I'm not talking being defensive, I'm talking ramming until he loses most of his speed... I blame Xeo, he has corrupted T.O. players with this driving style XD!
But seriously, boost on boost off, either way there gonna be BS that will piss you off. |
It's fun when you get a sudden boost after every corner you took... You basically brake hard, and guide the car to the point where every trailing cars will exit at and and BUMP! instant speed boost...  Furthermore R34 + speed boost=instant pawn!  Driving this car in osaka with 780hp is  Coupled with heavy traffic, opponents has difficulties blocking me...  But then, that R34 driver you mentioned sounds stupid... This post has been edited by Kenji on Mar 8 2008, 01:21 AM
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Boost off. Cause where I play, no one plays boost on simply because they don't want opponents hiding behind the excuse of 'you're a boost whore' when they lose.
EDIT: just to clarify, most of us don't hide behind the 'u r bust hore' excuse.
QUOTE | If the racer who's behind takes a faster line and gains, he's proving to be the faster racer and is proving that he should be the one ahead because he's performing better. So let him by and try to pass him by making better lines yourself.
Why would you block in a race intended to show who can take the better line? You're just proving that you, infact, are the slower car and can't own up to losing because of it, so you decide to ram the car instead. That's not fair in a boost off setting. |
There's something I disagree with in that post.
[Plagarism mode turn on. Go to www.sirlin.net for more info]
Say we got 3 groups of players: -1 group plays boost on (casual players) -1 plays boost off and no contact and no blocking -1 plays boost off and anything goes
The boost on guys are never going to learn the correct lines to take, cause they don't have to, so they're somewhat irrelevant to the discussion so I'll leave them alone. They're only here for fun anyway, so don't expect asking them to sit down and work at the game to... um... work.
The no contact guys are learning to proper lines and trying to pass cleanly and all that. But because they never have to deal with blockers and rammers, they'll never know how to (it's not like ramming is a piece of cake. It takes practice too).
The no boost anything goes guys will probably learnt to take lines (some of which will be worse than the No Contact group) anyway, cause it's no boost, but they'll also learn to live with blocking and ramming and all that stuff.
So what happens when the last 2 groups meet? The first group will be decimated, and can either complain that the second group are cheap, or deal with contact.
QUOTE | Blocking boost off is ridiculous because save for hitting traffic or a wall, the speed increase from a better line is miniscule at best, small enough that the person who's behind can be easily blocked off because he's gaining so slowly. |
To counter blocking, ram, much like you counter constant guarding in a fighting game by throwing the bastard. If you really want to have a best line contest, run TA, cause vs races aren't just about my line > your line.
QUOTE | Honestly, I'd probably win 99% of my boost off matches if I started the race ahead and decided to block, it's just too damn cheap. Boost on, the cars gain much faster, AND you're given a handling increase when you're behind (which decreases as you get closer), so passing a car is much easier while being pushed. |
So why don't you block? The game doesn't know shit about cheap or not, only who came first, second, third and fourth.
QUOTE | And you're wrong, players who block a car and impede its line are given penalties in real racing. This happens in F1 alot when a car who is going to pass is blocked off intentionally. The rule is to actually allow the person who's passing you, to pass, as both a safety precaution and out of fairness. The reason he's going to pass you is because he's performing better, so live with it, suck up your pride, and let him pass. |
I think the no blocking in F1 is more of a safety thing than a fairness thing. Crashing in those things would hurt a lot.
Anyway, I'm sorry if I upset anyone in any way. I tried not to word in an offensive manner.
This post has been edited by Tensa on Mar 8 2008, 07:39 AM
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