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> Oddmanout84's Z build, Not your Devil Z
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Posted: Oct 15 2010, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Oddmanout84 @ Yesterday, 10:41 PM)
What RB motor? Lol, that's a KA24DE. tongue.gif

Umm...oops I said the wrong thing tongue.gif

The KA24DE, I would love to see it mildly built with a GT30R on the side of it!
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Posted: Oct 15 2010, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (HateSkylines @ 1 hour, 12 minutes ago)
Umm...oops I said the wrong thing tongue.gif

The KA24DE, I would love to see it mildly built with a GT30R on the side of it!

When that thing gets built, its going to be more wild than mild. Like I said, plans would be for the Brian Crower fully counterweighted crank and full forged internals. But that could always change.
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Posted: Oct 17 2010, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE (Oddmanout84 @ Oct 15 2010, 09:18 PM)
When that thing gets built, its going to be more wild than mild. Like I said, plans would be for the Brian Crower fully counterweighted crank and full forged internals. But that could always change.

I have a friend who is doing that set-up now on one of his KA24DEs, I'll let you know how it goes.
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Posted: Oct 17 2010, 07:43 PM
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Hopefully, it goes well. I kinda like the idea of a torquey 4 banger being made more torquey. And one that ISN'T an SR20.
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Posted: Oct 18 2010, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (Oddmanout84 @ Yesterday, 11:43 PM)
Hopefully, it goes well. I kinda like the idea of a torquey 4 banger being made more torquey. And one that ISN'T an SR20.

SR20s are badass motors, just overplayed right now. Its not like any of them are stupid baller, most are just bolt-on cars that drift.

Wait a few years, SR20s will fade out.
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Posted: Oct 20 2010, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE (HateSkylines @ Oct 18 2010, 02:21 PM)
SR20s are badass motors, just overplayed right now. Its not like any of them are stupid baller, most are just bolt-on cars that drift.

Wait a few years, SR20s will fade out.

and be replaced by what?

I just can't think of another engine that is that cheap to modify, it's not that simple.

Don't even count Mitsubishi's 4G63T or Hyundai's version of the 4B11T, those engines have aftermarket parts, sure, but they don't come as economical as SR20 parts.
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Posted: Oct 20 2010, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE (VR4FTW @ 1 hour, 42 minutes ago)
and be replaced by what?

I just can't think of another engine that is that cheap to modify, it's not that simple.

Don't even count Mitsubishi's 4G63T or Hyundai's version of the 4B11T, those engines have aftermarket parts, sure, but they don't come as economical as SR20 parts.

Well as with anything, its not going to stay around forever. Interest will wane over time, unmolested or "pure" motors will get harder to find, parts will get rarer or more expensive, and then people will move on.

Look at my current motor, the L28. Its getting harder and harder now just to get a set of good BEARINGS or RINGS. Let alone when was the last time someone made a full stroker kit (like Tomei does for the SR20) or piston sleeves. Granted a lot of new technology has come about since the 1960's and its not entirely profitable to make a line of parts for a 40 year old motor. But the SR20's days are numbered as well, as with any motor. Its just a matter of when.
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Posted: Oct 20 2010, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE (Oddmanout84 @ 5 hours, 36 minutes ago)
Well as with anything, its not going to stay around forever. Interest will wane over time, unmolested or "pure" motors will get harder to find, parts will get rarer or more expensive, and then people will move on.

Look at my current motor, the L28. Its getting harder and harder now just to get a set of good BEARINGS or RINGS. Let alone when was the last time someone made a full stroker kit (like Tomei does for the SR20) or piston sleeves. Granted a lot of new technology has come about since the 1960's and its not entirely profitable to make a line of parts for a 40 year old motor. But the SR20's days are numbered as well, as with any motor. Its just a matter of when.

well, what you said is true, I'm not going to argue with it..

The tuning scene is steadily losing good engines. Just look at the 4G63T. Its already been replaced by the 4B11T, which is a good engine but I just don't think that aluminum block can handle anything more than 600bhp.

If the SR20 does really pack it things and leave, I hope the FT-86 engine will be there to replace it. My hopes are high for that car.
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Posted: Oct 20 2010, 10:32 AM
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The tuning scene is losing good engines, yes, but they also aren't (in most cases) even bothering to look for a replacement. Eventually, you'll have the make/country of origin purists who have to pay out the a$$ for their parts, and then you'll have people like HBZers who are willing to drop almost any engine in that's cheap and available.

I, personally, don't see the point of paying the amount people want for SR20s and RB2Xs when I can get a Mercedes M102, M104, or similar for a fraction of the price, AND have more displacement at the same time.
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Posted: Oct 20 2010, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (PanzerAce @ 2 hours, 35 minutes ago)
The tuning scene is losing good engines, yes, but they also aren't (in most cases) even bothering to look for a replacement. Eventually, you'll have the make/country of origin purists who have to pay out the a$$ for their parts, and then you'll have people like HBZers who are willing to drop almost any engine in that's cheap and available.

I, personally, don't see the point of paying the amount people want for SR20s and RB2Xs when I can get a Mercedes M102, M104, or similar for a fraction of the price, AND have more displacement at the same time.

Hence another reason why I got the KA over the $2000 SR20DET my cousin was selling. It was free, lol. Slightly newer so it has more parts availability than the L series, and some parts suppliers are starting to make nice things for it.

KA26DET ftw.
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Posted: Oct 20 2010, 07:17 PM
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the SR20 is slowly being phased out by the KA24 drifters started learning about this magical dust that V8s are biult with called torque. lol

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Posted: Oct 20 2010, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE (SouthSideSlider @ 1 hour, 23 minutes ago)
the SR20 is slowly being phased out by the KA24 drifters started learning about this magical dust that V8s are built with called torque. lol

More and more drifters are making the V8 jump


now they are realizing its not all about turbo..and the V8's bolt ons are relatively easy and cheap to buy, not to mention the horsepower and torque it has over that silly SR20. I personally like GM's LS9 ^^V, but Japanese V8's are not so bad, even though they lack the displacement and the additional torque that comes with it.
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Posted: Oct 21 2010, 03:14 PM
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Formula Drift has been taken over by V8s (My friend just swapped his 1JZ out of his R32 with a LQ4 just to stay competitive) because they are cheaper for more power/torque compared to a SR/RB/JZ ect. Lets face it...Formula D drivers are generally budget drifters with lots of skill, minus a few who have lots of money and skill. So these V8 motors with bolt-ons are making close to 400whp, of course people are going to like that.

Some will always say they prefer their JZ/SR/RB/4A better, but its about being competitive on a budget.

The SR20s day are numbered, everyone on Zilvia thinks they're gay now and blah blah blah. I think its a great motor, I have no problem paying the price for parts on any engine, whether it be a SR, 3S or JZ ect. I like the motors for their powerband (And sometimes, lack-there-of powerband) and heritage.

I guess I dont mind the time and money it takes to build a engine like a RB28 (Which can easily set you back $20,000+ if you go all out) over something else that will make the same power for alot less.

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Posted: Oct 21 2010, 05:07 PM
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I think what's probably the most amazing part of that is how long it took them to realize that about v8's. LOL.

I'll never go v8 though for one reason: sound.
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Posted: Dec 20 2010, 06:30 AM
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There's a hole in my roof....
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Posted: Dec 20 2010, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE (Oddmanout84 @ 1 hour, 42 minutes ago)
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There's a hole in my roof....

that's just fast acting rust
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Posted: Dec 20 2010, 03:40 PM
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Or just the flick of a screwdriver. Good riddance, you f**king piece of shit. That's probably the only thing I've really hated about my car.
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Posted: Dec 21 2010, 12:23 AM
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Finally got active again, thank God. I even read all the pages before I registered laugh.gif

Nice Z you restored there. Everything remained retro too, the way I like it on a Z like that.
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Posted: Dec 21 2010, 04:55 AM
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QUOTE (Oddmanout84 @ Today, 1:30 AM)

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There's a hole in my roof....

Needs moar WD-40.
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Posted: Dec 21 2010, 06:17 AM
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Finally got active again, thank God. I even read all the pages before I registered laugh.gif

Nice Z you restored there. Everything remained retro too, the way I like it on a Z like that.

Thanks! Retro looks with some modern improvements is the policy of this build.


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QUOTE (Geo @ 1 hour, 48 minutes ago)
Needs moar WD-40.

There's actually no rust around that hole whatsoever. Even I was surprised.
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Posted: Dec 21 2010, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (Oddmanout84 @ Oct 21 2010, 05:07 PM)
I think what's probably the most amazing part of that is how long it took them to realize that about v8's. LOL.

I'll never go v8 though for one reason: sound.

I like the I6 sound personally smile.gif But I also love a nice V8 tone. And I <3 V10s happy.gif

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Posted: Dec 21 2010, 01:02 PM
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Yeah, for a while I was contemplating putting a four cylinder in the Z but I dunno... We'll see.
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I like the I6 sound personally smile.gif But I also love a nice V8 tone. And I <3 V10s happy.gif

RB26DETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol, could it fit his Z?
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Posted: Dec 22 2010, 09:11 PM
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RB26DETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol, could it fit his Z?

Easily.


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But as much as the idea of twin turbos sounds nice, I'd actually rather an RB25DET. Its still a very capable motor, much more than my L6 to say the least. That and I wouldn't have to go through the bumblef**k of paying twin turbo tax and switching the transmission.
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QUOTE (Oddmanout84 @ 18 minutes, 28 seconds ago)
Easily.


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But as much as the idea of twin turbos sounds nice, I'd actually rather an RB25DET. Its still a very capable motor, much more than my L6 to say the least. That and I wouldn't have to go through the bumblef**k of paying twin turbo tax and switching the transmission.

I didn't know that N1 turbos need taxes to be paid whistling.gif
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