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Posted: Jan 21 2012, 09:01 AM
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lol, just when I was about to call it quits for the day... hayz... 10 minutes tops. I got work at 11 am tomorrow. =.= XD
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Posted: Jan 21 2012, 09:02 AM
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lol, just when I was about to call it quits for the day... hayz... 10 minutes tops. I got work at 11 am tomorrow. =.= XD

Errr will you come?
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Posted: Jan 21 2012, 09:04 AM
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yeah; and as I said 10 mins tops
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Posted: Jan 21 2012, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE (Gunma's 34 @ 15 seconds ago)
yeah; and as I said 10 mins tops

Okay bro. See ya at SSRX.

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Posted: Jan 21 2012, 09:08 AM
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is it your lounge !mma_N00B? I'm in your lounge; no one's there. Give me the room number / lounge name / PSN of lounge owner (tell him/her to add me in)
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Posted: Jan 21 2012, 04:44 PM
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Since I'd be gone from my home for roughly around 1 hour or more...I'd just write this and tell what I will be doing when I couldn't access to internet as usual. LOL

Other than that; NO DRAWING UPDATES FOR 3 DAYS AT LEAST!! SORRY GUYS... crying2.gif

1: Working on many designs for Gunma's request on Kasumi and Oniko. But I will share it after I got home if my time schedule is somewhat good enough.

2: Continued script-writing on Day 2 and of course; many other studies on your characters that weren't in Tsuchiya Chronicles so it may at least help me understand more of them and how I can make my own main character Tsubasa interact with them in the future once SSS is completed.

And anyway; I do look forward your share of knowledge in differential between Tsubasa and your 4 main heroes of Speed Legend later on, Gunma. Don't forget that. grin2.gif

Like I said, just make a brief comparison of how different Tsubasa is a character in compared to your main heroes? (Daiki, Seiji, Keisuke, and of course...Tomogashi...)

I am very interested in seeing just how much a character Tsubasa will become in comparison with your original heroes' overall motives and purposes as well as their perception as a racer in life. :3

The only thing I know is that Tsubasa is the opposite of Tomogashi, but I really wish to know the difference more so I can have a clearer idea on how to form Tsubasa when the time comes where Tsubasa and Tomogashi will someday FINALLY meet.

Do take all the time you need though, no need to rush. biggrin.gif

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Got damn with 853 HP, Katerina's S7 could reach 410 km/h.
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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 04:28 AM
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Seems sorta IMBA for Tsuchiya Chronicles...but eh...I'd just sit back and wait for Gunma's decision. ;P

Anyway...currently on a cafe downloading a converter for my docx files since my scripts cannot be used on my old hometown's Microsoft Office 2003 series. >_<

I am still waiting for Gunma's overall brief description on the differential between Tsubasa and the other 4 hero characters so I can have a better idea on how to form Tsubasa's own character as I continued with the Day 2 script.

Current Day 2 Script progress: 70%
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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 04:52 AM
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after seeing the IRL Takumi Takahachi (or was it Takashi? I forgot), Here are a few realizations that we must keep in our hearts about Supido no Densetsu:

"It's not about being the fastest or the best there is. That doesn't matter. Who understands the true meaning of speed; not by the numbers, is considered truly the fastest."

"If you only care about numbers that you get; then you don't have a bond with your car that you claim to have."

"You'd stay with your car no matter how many odds are against you because you trust your car. If you keep on switching cars; then you car doesn't bear a heart. It's just a machine."

"Teams are excuses to become top tier with the least effort as you share it with others. It takes a lone wolf to become truly the fastest."

"If someone doesn't care about the fact that figures support your victory; you don't understand what speed truly is. You have no appreciation for it; you let your greed overcome you."

Explanations for this proves why:
1. Seiji Tsuchiya uses an underhanded car and still runs with it; the Evo has bad points on the Wangansen and Seiji still persists with it.
2. Tomogashi Kitsumoro continues to move forward although hated for not representing the country in a country-representing event, holding his head up high. He will never replace his R34 for any other machine as the continuous trials he face with it proves his trust in his car.
3. Daiki Akiyama is able to stay with the most powerful of opponents on Akiyama Chronicles.
4. Keisuke Mamoru doesn't race just anyone.
5. Tsubasa Aramaki goes on running despite the entire set of disadvantages that lie before him.
6. Kujira Kuroyama lets people misunderstand him as they have no idea what they're actually trying to prove against Kujira. The only ones who understand him appreciate life & speed the same way he does.
7. Midnight Cinderella sees racing in a totally different light; same as with Chiaki Miyazaki.

Controversial quotes to consider:
1. The GT-R35. We know that the R35 is the new Supercar Killer; though already a Supercar in its own right. In the world of Supido no Densetsu; that seems downright unfair, no? Yet, some characters drive it. Here are possible explanations to it:
  • Raymond Yamazaki uses an R35 in order to boost popularity and sales in his tuning shop - a common objective for establishments who want to rise in the industry by countless updating
  • Kitana Tioseco uses an R35 to represent the common individual who goes with the crowd and relies on the new age for their ease & functionality; not for the bond made or the trust they had. (Kitana's awakening has ended by Hachioji's era where her love for her Lamborghini Diablo slowly dies and goes on updating to the R35)
  • Keisuke Mamoru uses an R35 not because it's powerful or because it can easily reach 380-400 km/h instantly. He uses an R35, serving it as a guidepost to aid Tomo. For him, the only way to prepare him is by helping him surpass the new generation with the aid of the old (considering that the R34 is old news / has bad rep / overused / overwhored)
2. Not becoming part of the popular crowd. The cars that the Speed Legend Characters use aren't popular or underrated in a sense. Some used to have the limelight but dies right after. Here are a couple of examples:
  • Mazda RX-8. Nimble & light. Used to be a people's favorite. But is impractical against the other monster machines tuned beyond the X8's capability.
  • Nissan Skyline R34. There are more R35's nowadays. Simply because they're better than the R34. But the R34's a fighter; not everyone realizes that.
  • Toyota AE86. True, it's popular; but it's because of a well known franchise *coughInitialDcough*. It's potential is highly limited and when taken to the Wangan or the circuit against a class that is higher and could outclass even a well tuned 86; the 86 is bound to fall and the crown must be handed over.
  • Lancer Evolution (8). Whored. Whored to the sense that in actuality (let's take GT5 as a closest counterpart), the finest tuning that you can do with it while maintaining its heart & character is like the 86, highly limited; with some traits that you might dislike (bad power curve, as pointed by !mma_N00B). The only way to utilize the Evo's other strong points is by simply; like in a person - a transplant. You let go of the natural heart that the Evo contains and you replace it with an artificial one that has more power and ability; yes faster but it doesn't feel as united as a normal Evo (hence the bad power curve and limited speed it has; again proven by !mma_N00B on GT5). Upon doing that conversion; the Evo is practically dead. It's better but it's no longer considered an Evolution; not even if it carries the same body.
  • Silvia S14 and SW20 MR2. Totally underrated machines that no one gave a chance to let these machines prove their worth. As I've tested out; the MR2, for just 440hp, can do 400km/h on a well planned slipstream.
Now, do you know why I don't put excessive R35s, Cerberas, Ford GTs, Corvettes, Vipers, Veyrons, SLR McLarens, any other supercar for that matter in the mix? The cars that those no one gave a chance or care in the world; don't know that they're capable of at all. Some are exceptions to the rule like the S7 of Katerina (dunno with !mma_N00B on this one though), Adrianna's McLaren (dangerous and unstable) & Chizuru's XJ220 (for a supercar, limited to jsut less than 700 hp). Yes, they all have limited potential but that's the beauty of it. Their limited capabilities are foundations for you to build on to make them surpass the unreachable.

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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 05:04 AM
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QUOTE (Gunma's 34 @ 11 minutes, 23 seconds ago)
after seeing the IRL Takumi Takahachi (or was it Takashi? I forgot), Here are a few realizations that we must keep in our hearts about Supido no Densetsu:

"It's not about being the fastest or the best there is. That doesn't matter. Who understands the true meaning of speed; not by the numbers, is considered truly the fastest."

"If you only care about numbers that you get; then you don't have a bond with your car that you claim to have."

"Teams are excuses to become top tier with the least effort as you share it with others. It takes a lone wolf to become truly the fastest."

"If someone doesn't care about the fact that figures support your victory; you don't understand what speed truly is. You have no appreciation for it; you let your greed overcome you."

Explanations for this proves why:
1. Seiji Tsuchiya uses an underhanded car and still runs with it.
2. Tomogashi Kitsumoro continues to move forward although hated for not representing the country in a country-representing event, holding his head up high.
3. Daiki Akiyama is able to stay with the most powerful of opponents.
4. Keisuke Mamoru doesn't race just anyone.
5. Tsubasa Aramaki goes on running despite the entire set of disadvantages that lie before him.
6. Kujira Kuroyama lets people misunderstand him as they have no idea what they're actually trying to prove against Kujira.
7. Midnight Cinderella sees racing in a totally different light; same as with Chiaki Miyazaki.

Well...obsessions can sometimes act as shackles itself...so I can relate on this part. smile.gif

And that is why Tsubasa never allow himself to get shackled by the matter of losing or winning...just wanting to go forward more and ever. grin2.gif

Nice philosophy you got with the characters there, Gunma. biggrin.gif
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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 05:14 AM
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updated it Rin. smile.gif I wanna hear your thoughts on this. (I'm totally whoring the PS3 now because I fear it might get sent out tomorrow *sniffle* so sorry if I can't make it on time with the Tsubasa VS Tomo/Daiki/Seiji/Keisuke persona comparison.
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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 06:59 AM
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updated it Rin. smile.gif I wanna hear your thoughts on this. (I'm totally whoring the PS3 now because I fear it might get sent out tomorrow *sniffle* so sorry if I can't make it on time with the Tsubasa VS Tomo/Daiki/Seiji/Keisuke persona comparison.

Well, take all the time you need. smile.gif

Since I am currently celebrating with my family...I too have very limited access to what I can do for the project in the current circumstance.

As for the SL Philosophy on the edited part; Raymond indeed has a very good reason to use his R after all; since I hardly believe it's for his own reputation; instead more for preserving his business.

For Kitana...I knew someday she's probably going to favor the R more than her own Lambo...but all for the better again.

For Keisuke...that's definitely one good way to put it together...now that I think about it. smile.gif No better way to guide a car than using a more powerful generation for that car.

For the cars; I honestly think bandwagons or not; as long as one is able to understand the machine fully; with both mind and body and even at a point; soul, you can make many impossible things turn into possible. Transplanting a consciousness of another "you" to the machine itself while driving as hard as you could...you slowly but surely came to understand more on your own machine. Once you've interacted with it at a very certain degree, you eventually feel the machine's slowly becoming a part of you.

The last part is actually one of the thoughts that Tsubasa himself continued to uphold with...to appreciate the beauty of the supposed limits on a machine; yet once interacted and get to know with the machine's overall enough; you eventually managed to break through the boundaries that were set on the machine itself; creating infinite possibilities.

Here's what I have in mind for one of SSS Tsubasa's personal quotes regarding about machine limits:

"If an old, beaten up untouched car that everyone laughs at...which was supposed to go no faster than even 150 km/h...all of the sudden traveled beyond 151 km/h and then to 152 km/h after being driven even more...to the point of exceeding 180 km/h...then who are to judge what is really the supposed "limit" of one machine that is driven by human strength and will?

Once your hands on the steering and your legs on the pedals; eyes on the mirrors and gauges; you are automatically linked partially with the machine itself; running along with how you want it to run.

It was the thoughts of human desires that either limits or break the limits of a machine's so-called limiter within the machinery builds.

In the end...it's all about a driver's desire and judgment on their own machines. If you think the car has its limits; then it will surely run like how you suppose it is. However if you drive with a thought of wanting to surpass that limit; all you need is to wish for it strong enough; and the car will slowly but surely answer your desires.

Machines that are linked to human senses are already considered machines without limits, as long as the driver knows how to surpass that limit with a strong will and wish."


Well then; I'd wait for your persona comparison tomorrow~~

have fun with the PS3. biggrin.gif
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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 08:56 AM
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I'll let Katerina stick with her S7 for a while but later on she'll use the NSX instead... lol.

But if your philosophy says that a car should have limits, then Katerina would be better with the NSX instead. I've pointed out that she's one multiple drag races over at Moscow so that should make her an experienced drag tuner, and the NSX is her one and only product of her drag racing experience and stuff.

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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 06:27 PM
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EARLY UPDATE!!!!

Day 2 script is finally DONE!

http://www.4shared.com/office/SVwHGx1N/Hac...cript_copy.html

Note: This script is over 16,000 words long... @_@

Take your time and enjoy reading. grin2.gif

Gunma, do take your sweet time editing this one as always. :3

And I will still be waiting for your character comparison along with what you think of the script. smile.gif

Cheers everyone~ grin2.gif
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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 07:17 PM
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Oh forgot to add this fact; supposed to be included on my last post.

Seiji Tsuchiya DOES NOT Hate Daiki Akiyama. If so; then why did they have a peaceful talk on chapter 26/27? Think about it. He respects Daiki and accepts him as the only guy who has defeated him completely. He never hated him. IT's more like the relationship between AKio and Tatsuya SHima. Tatsuya never despised or hated Akio or The Devil Z. This was imminent when he admits that he wants to be the one chosen to take over the old Akio's place when he died in that accident.

So take that note into account; everyone here who's part of the development group.
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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 07:20 PM
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Oh forgot to add this fact; supposed to be included on my last post.

Seiji Tsuchiya DOES NOT Hate Daiki Akiyama. If so; then why did they have a peaceful talk on chapter 26/27? Think about it. He respects Daiki and accepts him as the only guy who has defeated him completely. He never hated him. IT's more like the relationship between AKio and Tatsuya SHima. Tatsuya never despised or hated Akio or The Devil Z. This was imminent when he admits that he wants to be the one chosen to take over the old Akio's place when he died in that accident.

So take that note into account; everyone here who's part of the development group.

Haha!

Just like how Tsubasa never hated Kujira in general either...because Tsubasa liked to chase those that he had a hard time keeping up with.

The harder his opponents are; the more boundaries he will break and the more he will come to know himself and his machine.

Looks like Seiji and Daiki's relationship do share something in common with Tsubasa and Kujira in a sense. grin2.gif

Anyway, have fun editing the script and hope I can hear your comparison by today or tonight~ ;3
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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 07:30 PM
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yeah I'm kinda having a blast reading it, lol.

I'm gonna start working on a HKS Hypermax Evo, and tune it to be top-speed/accel wise good but faulty in cornering & weight balance, just like in day 2 and gift it to !mma_N00B.


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and Rin, get details from !mma_N00B; but we just made an awesome replay using the following cars:

1. Seiji's FINAL FQ-600 EVO IX GSR MR
2. Kujira's BNR32 DEAD ZONE GT-R
3. Tsubasa's FINAL Ghost AE86 Trueno (S. Shigeno version / Takumi mobile)

track: *new* Special STage route X.

We also made a female's version featuring:
1. Chiaki's 993 Turbo S
2. Midnight Cinderella's RX-8 Type S
3. Katerina's NA2 NSX GT500 Stealth

If it'll be made to an ED Vid; I pictured that the best fitting soundtrack for this is:

Jonathan Underdown's Day to Live / Gran Turismo 5 ED BGM.
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Posted: Jan 22 2012, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE (Gunma's 34 @ 9 minutes, 1 seconds ago)
yeah I'm kinda having a blast reading it, lol.

I'm gonna start working on a HKS Hypermax Evo, and tune it to be top-speed/accel wise good but faulty in cornering & weight balance, just like in day 2 and gift it to !mma_N00B.


[ Post merged on Jan 22 2012, 07:34 PM ]
and Rin, get details from !mma_N00B; but we just made an awesome replay using the following cars:

1. Seiji's FINAL FQ-600 EVO IX GSR MR
2. Kujira's BNR32 DEAD ZONE GT-R
3. Tsubasa's FINAL Ghost AE86 Trueno (S. Shigeno version / Takumi mobile)

track: *new* Special STage route X.

We also made a female's version featuring:
1. Chiaki's 993 Turbo S
2. Midnight Cinderella's RX-8 Type S
3. Katerina's NA2 NSX GT500 Stealth

If it'll be made to an ED Vid; I pictured that the best fitting soundtrack for this is:

Jonathan Underdown's Day to Live / Gran Turismo 5 ED BGM.

Ah, awesome possim. grin2.gif

I'd try and get details from him later on.

Anyway; if it helps; do read everything Tsubasa said on the script so you may understand him a bit better before you make comparison of persona with your other 4 heroes. ;3

I just wanna understand 4 of your heroes more in this comparison since it may help me in writing Day 3's storyline onwards. smile.gif
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Hurrr. Our poor memory got us. We coulda used Kitana, Shino and Chizuru for the second set of females. Carramba.

Anyway did you notice the funny conversation last night when C-SEIJI and Onboy123 were still there? We were talking about C-SEIJI running on the breakdown lane laugh.gif
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@!mma_N00B

Have you the replay video at any links at all? I'd like to see it myself. :3

@Gunma

Do tell me how you like that one little SSS Tsubasa's quote that is bolded a few posts ago. grin2.gif
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OK. I'll get to work on the main character comparisons while I load up the GT5.

What were you guys talking about with the whole C-Seiji thing? and breakdown lane? As in the lane that looks gravelled?

And we can't use Kitana; she doesn't appear on Hachioji; she appears on the Speed Legend V Manga (Tomo vs. Keisuke, Akane, Ishii & Ketsui; feat. Raymond & Kitana) and only appears with the GTR35 then.

Naoko's more fitting as she does have a debut on Hachioji. But yeah; we could've tried that if it werent for the stupid "You have been disconnected from the Lobby Server" pop up. >.<
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QUOTE (Rin @ 4 minutes, 19 seconds ago)
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Have you the replay video at any links at all? I'd like to see it myself. :3

Hurr I don't have a capture card. I'll leave the two replays to Gunma, since he saved it anyway. laugh.gif

@Gunma: Errr okay about Naoko. I really have poor memory laugh.gif

You know, when we were doing the photoshoot before you came, this V16T91 guy never bothered to steer. Yes, he was running on the concrete part of the road (it's not gravel lol), and I had a little hard time trying to let him keep up when he's touching the wall lol. We teasing him a little because of that. He said that "that's how people in England do it" and that "it'll produce more diverse shots". I just giggled.
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QUOTE (Gunma's 34 @ 5 minutes, 2 seconds ago)
OK. I'll get to work on the main character comparisons while I load up the GT5.

Naoko's more fitting as she does have a debut on Hachioji. But yeah; we could've tried that if it werent for the stupid "You have been disconnected from the Lobby Server" pop up. >.<

Thanks man...seeing as I have limited time access on the net...I really need the info ASAP before I go off-screen and do some serious writing on Day 3.

Also...I agree that Naoko's MR2 is a lot more suited. :3

And I am also currently working on Day 3 Preview text picture...expect MOAR quotes from characters. <3

Confirmed stuffs for Day 3 planning;

Chizuru makes her debut and looking for opponents; until she finds Raymond Yamazaki's GT-R.

Tsubasa's Ghost 86 is going to get fixed completely by the time Day 3 is coming close to an end before entering the Wangan once more.

Raymond, Naoko and M.C are all feeling the same unusual feeling of watching Tsubasa test-drive his new Ghost 86; a feeling that made their depiction towards Tomogashi's character completely opposite in comparing Tsubasa's overall person.

*More to come soon...*
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oooooooh! I see. LOL!

And for the record: Naoko = Green SW20.
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More like Jaguar British Racing Green SW20. lol

By the way, you got disconnected, well because, I quit the room. I was about to type a message but when I unpaused the game, my lap timers stopped ticking and my meters disappeared. I was glitched, really, then I decided to quit.
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