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Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 3DX+ Machine info, Info on components of WMMT 3DX+ cabinet
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Well that sucks, I was hoping to change it over but oh well. I do remember a screen that states the game is used exclusively in Japan. One could hope anyway. Thanks for the help. [ Post merged on Apr 13 2016, 11:37 AM ] By the way, are you the fella (weirdo808hi) that sold a fella on Ebay 50 cards for the 3dx+ machine? If so, I'm Ridgercr from Ebay that bought them. (Your profile said you're from Hawaii)
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Hey guys - I picked up 2 WMMT3 cabinets. One of them has some issues (it boots and plays, but sound has an intense squeal and the screen is severely distorted).
I am interested in trying to swap out the old CRT display and potentially rewire the audio.
In comparing the two units, a few things stand out with the degraded one:
1 - The audio squeals very badly, and monitor speakers seem to not be working at all (only the seat speakers work)
2 - In troubleshooting the audio, it appears that there may be a problem with the power supply. Is it just a standard, slim PSU? I got a light shock multiple times on this unit, but not on the 100% unit. Obviously not scientific, but I also swapped the speakers from this one to the other and the squeal went away, which points to either wiring or interference from the power supply.
3 - The monitor is a 27" CRT that's connected via VGA to the video card. That should be pretty easy to replace... given I can find a replacement
Anyway, are there any suggestions on a replacement monitor or a way to fix the distortion? It's magnetic, like when you wave a speaker in front of a CRT, but degaussing doesn't help. Maybe related to the front speakers?
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Hi there Heinekev, Firstly, congrats on obtaining not one, but two of the machines. Are they for home use or going to an arcade? I purchased a WMMT 3Dx+ machine last year from EBay and even though it's the Japanese version, it's not too hard to figure out. I just really want to read how the story mode plays out. With your speaker problem, definitely check all the wiring first, then if that pans out, check the audio and bass I/O boards. You want to look for caps that might be bulging from overheat or anything that appears burnt too. These boards can be purchased either on EBay or at ArcadeSpareParts.com. They're not too much money, and also, if you can get the manual then this would be a big help too. I think you can download the MT3 manual online as a PDF format. As far as the monitor goes, it could be a number of problems but you will have to check all your connections first, then look at the chassis board mounted below the CRT. BIG CAUTION! Don't touch anything back there with the power on, and you want to discharge the monitor voltage before going back into the monitor board. Watch how to do this on YouTube if you've never done it. I had problems with my monitor when the game arrived. I discovered 2 separate copper wire coils that popped off the chassis board. Soldered them back on, and the monitor fired up, besides degaussing, worked great. If you have any further problems, just ask, a few of the folks here own these machines or have access to them besides playing in the arcade.
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Thanks for the reply. They're for home use -- I got them for a steal ($1500 for the pair + shipping from Texas to Kentucky!). I've been addicted to the game forever, played it while I was in Seattle and now that I'm back in Kentucky I've come to find that there aren't any arcades with the game anymore. Fudge. eBay to the rescue, though! The audio issue turned out to be related to the volume knob on the same panel as the test and select buttons. Just turned it up and the squeal went away. Wild! I didn't figure that out until after I traced all the cables from the seat on through the audio boards to the motherboard. No loose connections, but now I'm familiar with how they are wired. Appreciate the heads up on the monitor. You probably just saved me a good bit of pain. I was going to start digging into that tomorrow, but after playing around with the units, I don't think the monitor is going to be that big of a problem. The green tint is not really visible while playing, only in menus. That said, I did run into a new problem that I am stumped on. Each unit works fine in standalone mode (PCB1 / Machine count 1), but as soon as I link them (either through a switch or via a crossover cable), one of the units consistently freezes mid-race. It's always the same physical unit -- whether or not it's PCB1 or PCB2, it'll boot up, complete the data merge, and get into a race before freezing. Once it freezes, though, it takes 5-6 reboot cycles to get it to come back to life. I'm assuming that this is motherboard related and that I'm not going to find an easy remedy. Arcadespareparts.com has replacements, and I was going to order at least 1 for future replacement needs anyway. Might jump on that unless there's something obvious that I may be missing. My suspicion is the network adapter may be toast (it's onboard), and I'm guessing it's not as simple as trying out a USB to Ethernet adapter Thanks again for the reply! This post has been edited by heinekev on Apr 28 2016, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (heinekev @ Yesterday, 5:03 PM) | That said, I did run into a new problem that I am stumped on. Each unit works fine in standalone mode (PCB1 / Machine count 1), but as soon as I link them (either through a switch or via a crossover cable), one of the units consistently freezes mid-race.
It's always the same physical unit -- whether or not it's PCB1 or PCB2, it'll boot up, complete the data merge, and get into a race before freezing. Once it freezes, though, it takes 5-6 reboot cycles to get it to come back to life.
I'm assuming that this is motherboard related and that I'm not going to find an easy remedy. Arcadespareparts.com has replacements, and I was going to order at least 1 for future replacement needs anyway. Might jump on that unless there's something obvious that I may be missing.
My suspicion is the network adapter may be toast (it's onboard), and I'm guessing it's not as simple as trying out a USB to Ethernet adapter
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I'm not sure if its the same in MT3 as what happens in 3DX and 3DX+ for the freezing during pvp battles. The cause of that most the time in 3DX and 3DX+ is a dead CMOS battery on one of the machines (the one that lags during pvp battles). Try and change the CMOS battery on the motherboard of the machine that freezes and see if that helps with pvp battles. In 3DX and 3DX+ there would be a yellow banner at the stop of the screen when the cmos is dead but MT3 didn't have that banner.
As for LCD, it would depend on the type of monitor or tv you get. My local arcade put in a 32in into the cabinet by removing some of the front speakers behind the front panel. The TV they bought was able to do 4:3 aspect ratio instead of it going to 16:9. So gameplay wasn't stretched out and it looked fine just more brighter than the crt and small pixalation if you really paid attention to it.
This post has been edited by weirdo808hi on Apr 29 2016, 01:39 PM
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Thanks guys for the answers.
It get stuck at Error20.How can I get at the menu?
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Hi guys, Been awhile since I last posted in this thread. I sold my pair of 3DX+ machines a few months ago but recently picked up a US (Wood) project Max Tune 3 machine. The N2 doesn't boot correctly, Seems to be a video card &/or HDD problem. Since I don't have a working cab that I can test parts in maybe someone can help? Here's a couple of screen shots of the boot up process, Glitched screen first then a glitched up NAMCO screen that runs thru the load process then back to the original glitched screen again. Image size reduced, original size: unknown. Click here to view the image in its original dimension. Image size reduced, original size: unknown. Click here to view the image in its original dimension.
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