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Posted: Sep 9 2013, 11:13 PM
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I'm sorry either your English is not very good.. or what you are saying doesn't make sense in my brain.

But it is just like dare said.. The game Does not REMEMBER that you have beaten a certain crown/King.. It is simply just a "ghost" an AI who remembers your lines for that map  for the most recent run.

I did it many times by inviting these local crown to my favourite course.
Beat them a few times and finally, I challenge local crown and try to
grab their crown.

BUT, I found out 3x car ( SPARK / ELUNE / SPV-S at TescoMelaka Cheng ) is hard to be beaten at Wangan or New Belt Line courses.. Very fast with 830HP .
If u want good challenger in ultra high speed, these car name ( SPARK or ELUNE or SPV-S ) is superb fast.

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Thats... Just about being fast in a straight line =|
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Posted: Sep 10 2013, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE (netmask8 @ 1 hour, 39 minutes ago)
I did it many times by inviting these local crown to my favourite course.
Beat them a few times and finally, I challenge local crown and try to
grab their crown.

BUT, I found out 3x car ( SPARK / ELUNE / SPV-S at TescoMelaka Cheng ) is hard to be beaten at Wangan or New Belt Line courses.. Very fast with 830HP .
If u want good challenger in ultra high speed, these car name ( SPARK or ELUNE or SPV-S ) is superb fast.

But it is a straight line as dare said. And just because the player has taken a local crown doesn't mean they are good on other maps. It is not how the system works.

In Normal Ghost mode, it is pretty much like a boost on Battle. Compared to a Local Crown which is a Boost Off race.. relying more on skill & your car.
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Posted: Sep 10 2013, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE (Seige @ 7 minutes, 24 seconds ago)
But it is a straight line as dare said. And just because the player has taken a local crown doesn't mean they are good on other maps. It is not how the system works.

In Normal Ghost mode, it is pretty much like a boost on Battle. Compared to a Local Crown which is a Boost Off race.. relying more on skill & your car.

If I'm the programmer of the WMMT 4 application, it may be another
factor to be considered. Presently,it is just an assumption and own conclusion.
How come some cars are superb fast in straight lane like Nagoya/Wangan ?

I did many times using my method, but the local crown won't last long..
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Posted: Sep 10 2013, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE (netmask8 @ 16 minutes, 4 seconds ago)
If I'm the programmer of the WMMT 4 application, it may be another
factor to be considered. Presently,it is just an assumption and own conclusion.
How come some cars are superb fast in straight lane like Nagoya/Wangan ?

I did many times using my method, but the local crown won't last long..

Umm because in Wangan the Z34 has the highest top speed in the game.. Also factoring in the use of Map Lines, Car choice & players overall skill there are people who can make the rx7 stupidly fast. You just taking the crowns easily just means that the crowns were easy and the player is not very good. Simple.. Also If you do Normal Ghosts, it also updates your Crown Ghost.. which also explains why It could be soo bad.
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QUOTE (Seige @ 43 minutes, 5 seconds ago)
Umm because in Wangan the Z34 has the highest top speed in the game.. Also factoring in the use of Map Lines, Car choice & players overall skill there are people who can make the rx7 stupidly fast. You just taking the crowns easily just means that the crowns were easy and the player is not very good. Simple.. Also If you do Normal Ghosts, it also updates your Crown Ghost.. which also explains why It could be soo bad.

Actually hiace.
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Crowns dont mean anything anymore. You can get ahead of them and block. On the straight roads they could crash once then thats it gg no more catching up.

Its not the system remembering, if it was it would be easy to farm crowns and dressup lol


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Not to mention, the inverse would be true no?
If you've lost once any other ghost would get harder?
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Posted: Sep 10 2013, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE (netmask8 @ 5 hours, 28 minutes ago)
If I'm the programmer of the WMMT 4 application, it may be another
factor to be considered. Presently,it is just an assumption and own conclusion.
How come some cars are superb fast in straight lane like Nagoya/Wangan ?

I did many times using my method, but the local crown won't last long..

Sent A challange to QQ222 RGT using N-9 Z31.. SHould be okay.. made a bunch of mistakes
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Posted: Sep 10 2013, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (Seige @ Today, 6:28 AM)
Sent A challange to QQ222 RGT using N-9 Z31.. SHould be okay.. made a bunch of mistakes

Hard to beat yr N-9 too.. Perhaps, I'm good in my area with only 1 month experience.

Anyway, will continue my fun play in Hakone course by challenging
local crown and other same level GHOST across AsiaPac countries in Hakone only. Will continue learning in drifting low gear cornerings..

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Low gear cornerings?
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Posted: Sep 10 2013, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE (netmask8 @ 2 hours, 13 minutes ago)
Hard to beat yr N-9 too.. Perhaps, I'm good in my area with only 1 month experience.

Anyway, will continue my fun play in Hakone course by challenging
local crown and other same level GHOST across AsiaPac countries in Hakone only. Will continue learning in drifting low gear cornerings..

Hakone is mostly Gear 4/5 depending on if yours is a 5 or 6th gear.

Only time I think that you shift down is when you corner hit or break

Generally you should never go to gear 2/3
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QUOTE (Seige @ 14 minutes, 14 seconds ago)
Hakone is mostly Gear 4/5 depending on if yours is a 5 or 6th gear.

Only time I think that you shift down is when you corner hit or break

Generally you should never go to gear 2/3

Depends... 4 gear car - no choice
5 gear car - drop to third maybe 3 times max - on the 3 hairpins
Some people only drop to 3rd once
6 gear, same thing replace 3rd with 4th


Hakone - like all tracks - you want to minimize shifting... The less you shift the faster you are - because you're not losing the speed to the point you need to downshift


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But yeah seige has it generally covered
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Posted: Sep 11 2013, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE (Dare @ 6 hours, 27 minutes ago)
Low gear cornerings?

Most of the times 4th gear.. some time = 5th gear..

For the 3 hairpins, move from 5th gear to 3rd gear and quickly switch to 4th gear..

For beginner, players prefer automatic transmission.. Any good players using
automatic transmission ? I'm seeing most ppls using manual transmission.
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Posted: Sep 11 2013, 07:44 AM
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thats... not low gear =/

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Posted: Sep 11 2013, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE (netmask8 @ 6 hours, 32 minutes ago)
Most of the times 4th gear.. some time = 5th gear..

For the 3 hairpins, move from 5th gear to 3rd gear and quickly switch to 4th gear..

For beginner, players prefer automatic transmission.. Any good players using
automatic transmission ? I'm seeing most ppls using manual transmission.

Ahh it's so good being back in homeland M'sia after my week-long family vacation to Europe...

Using AT @ Hakone? Don't even think about it...did it once with my MX-5 after I got it transferred from 3DX+ (for the unique title...and forgetting to change it to MT after I transferred it)...it's a total screw-up man...basically I can say is that using AT @ Hakone there's no way you can have speed control of your car...worse you'll end up bumping heck lots on the turns...so yeah dry.gif
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QUOTE (netmask8 @ Today, 1:17 AM)
Most of the times 4th gear.. some time = 5th gear..

For the 3 hairpins, move from 5th gear to 3rd gear and quickly switch to 4th gear.. 

For beginner, players prefer automatic transmission.. Any good players using
automatic transmission ?  I'm seeing most ppls using manual transmission.

For cornering course(Hakone + Nagoya), players prefer
to have a 5 gear car like RUF CTR ( QQ333 ).

For ultra high speed course (Wangan, Yokohane), players prefer to
have a 6 gear car like RUF RGT ( QQ222 ) , or EVO 9 ( QQ888 ) .

Is the 5 or 6 gear car selection is important ? IMO, No point choosing a
6x gear car in Hakone course, right? Unless you are very "expert"
with the car..But, some" expert" in a 6 gear car are able to handle it
very well which shown in youtube.com

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Posted: Sep 11 2013, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (netmask8 @ 4 hours, 49 minutes ago)
For cornering course(Hakone + Nagoya), players prefer
to have a 5 gear car like RUF CTR ( QQ333 ).

For ultra high speed course (Wangan, Yokohane), players prefer to
have a 6 gear car like RUF RGT ( QQ222 ) , or EVO 9 ( QQ888 ) .

Is the 5 or 6 gear car selection is important ? IMO, No point choosing a
6x gear car in Hakone course, right? Unless you are very "expert"
with the car..But, some" expert" in a 6 gear car are able to handle it
very well which shown in youtube.com

Just to put in my opinion, I prefer a 6 gear car in Hakone, 5 Gear car in Nagouya and A particular 4 Gear Secret Car in Wangan.

Explanation: With a 6 gear car, you generally have more control over the speeds as well as the handling of your car. If compare the Rx7's 5 gears over to the Rx8 6 gears... I would take the Rx8 mainly because I can limit the top speed of a certain gear to take the corner the way I want. If I am using a 5 gear car.. I have less control.. so acceleration control becomes way more important.

Nag: I just like 5 gear cars no need to shift down at certain points and it just feels better to me.

Wangan: 4 gears like the Celsior/Stingray/HAICE/SXV are just nice to drive since there will be very little shifting at all.
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Gears dont matter really, as long as you know your shift points its not gonna change much.

Any change would be a result ofthe car, not the gears


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Ahh it's so good being back in homeland M'sia after my week-long family vacation to Europe...

Using AT @ Hakone? Don't even think about it...did it once with my MX-5 after I got it transferred from 3DX+ (for the unique title...and forgetting to change it to MT after I transferred it)...it's a total screw-up man...basically I can say is that using AT @ Hakone there's no way you can have speed control of your car...worse you'll end up bumping heck lots on the turns...so yeah dry.gif

What do you mean no speed control? Just needs a lot of brake and throttle control is all...

The downside of at is that the shift points are wrong... Downshifts way too much so you lose speed, and the upshift is too early you're losing out on accel... Not speed control as much... That you can make up for
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QUOTE (Dare @ 3 hours, 59 minutes ago)
What do you mean no speed control? Just needs a lot of brake and throttle control is all...

The downside of at is that the shift points are wrong... Downshifts way too much so you lose speed, and the upshift is too early you're losing out on accel... Not speed control as much... That you can make up for

Umm yeah that's what I meant actually...bad shift points confused.gif
Thanks for correcting me smile.gif

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Posted: Sep 12 2013, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (Dare @ Yesterday, 11:46 PM)
Gears don't matter really, as long as you know your shift points its not gonna change much.

Any change would be a result of the car, not the gears

It really comes down to preference, in the terms of gears. You are correct by saying if you know your shift points nothing really changes. I again, it comes down to preference.. I prefer 6 gears in hakone and 5 gears in other.. but that is just me. ^^

Btw Application Sent.. I'll be in Beijing next week for 6 days.. So I won't be playing until I come back.
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From how I see it in all kinds of racing games...
Lets take two identical cars that are the same except for their gears.

Car A has 5 gears.
Car B has 6 gears.

Car A & B has a top speed of 300kmph.

To make this easier we'll assume that all gears changes are equal.
(Obviously they aren't; 1st gear is relatively short compared to 5th/6th gear.)

Car A will have a 60kmph between two gears or shifts or it'll max its rev at every 60kmph.
Car B will have a 50kmph between two gears or shifts or it'll max its rev at every 50kmph.

So yes~ less gears = less gear control and more throttle/brake feathering control.
Somehow affects acceleration too but I don't know how to explain that without waving
my arms everywhere armed with a whiteboard marker in front of a whiteboard next to
an MT4 machine to demonstrate what I mean ^^;;.
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QUOTE (Riisssaaa @ 8 hours, 14 minutes ago)
From how I see it in all kinds of racing games...
Lets take two identical cars that are the same except for their gears.

Car A has 5 gears.
Car B has 6 gears.

Car A & B has a top speed of 300kmph.

To make this easier we'll assume that all gears changes are equal.
(Obviously they aren't; 1st gear is relatively short compared to 5th/6th gear.)

Car A will have a 60kmph between two gears or shifts or it'll max its rev at every 60kmph.
Car B will have a 50kmph between two gears or shifts or it'll max its rev at every 50kmph.

So yes~ less gears = less gear control and more throttle/brake feathering control.
Somehow affects acceleration too but I don't know how to explain that without waving
my arms everywhere armed with a whiteboard marker in front of a whiteboard next to
an MT4 machine to demonstrate what I mean ^^;;.

not really.... lol
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QUOTE (Riisssaaa @ Yesterday, 10:50 AM)
From how I see it in all kinds of racing games...
Lets take two identical cars that are the same except for their gears.

Car A has 5 gears.
Car B has 6 gears.

Car A & B has a top speed of 300kmph.

To make this easier we'll assume that all gears changes are equal.
(Obviously they aren't; 1st gear is relatively short compared to 5th/6th gear.)

Car A will have a 60kmph between two gears or shifts or it'll max its rev at every 60kmph.
Car B will have a 50kmph between two gears or shifts or it'll max its rev at every 50kmph.

So yes~ less gears = less gear control and more throttle/brake feathering control.
Somehow affects acceleration too but I don't know how to explain that without waving
my arms everywhere armed with a whiteboard marker in front of a whiteboard next to
an MT4 machine to demonstrate what I mean ^^;;.

I tend to agree on the identical car with each 5th/6th gear..
5th gear car may have faster pickup than 6th gear car during
shifting the 2nd - 5/6 gear .. Seek Uncle Google for more explanation.
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depends on the car...

and its barely noticeable.
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sorry to barge in on you guys

I want to ask if any of you know someone name Danial Rashid?

he's making a mess in our community

here is his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/danial.rashid.1238

I want to know, is he really that good so he can freely insult our country like that?

oh and just so you won't think that I'm making this up

SPOILER


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