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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 08:22 AM
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Hmmmm...

btw... which wheel gives the easiest maintenance of top speed?

or highest top speed...

gotta start my wangan TA project... gotta get that '100 cut off!

Haven't really tested the rims for speed... its all been handling so far...

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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE (PDK @ Today at 8:02 AM)
So wouldn't aftermarket wheels fit PERFECTLY with this game?

Performance-sensitive aftermarket wheels fit the scene perfectly. However, I find it to be a joke that they emulate wheel mass in a game that can't emulate vehicular dynamics. Besides, in reality, the differences in weight between typical Wangan cars are negligible--it bears almost no influence on the car.

Unlike you, I don't feel like I've gained an almighty insight into Wangan tuning by looking at pictures. There is a lot more behind tuning for a high-speed freeway car than the game leads us to believe. In my honest opinion, this translated 'wheel guide' is purely fabricated--the cited wheel descriptions are actually taken directly from the description of the real-life wheels, so I doubt they have any effect in a mainstream arcade game.
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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 08:36 AM
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Do you run East or West?
I purely run Eastbound and for Supra Ive only ran twice.
1 was Stock and one was some random Aero kit and 54f.

They ran similar times, but all stock was fastest for me.
Z33 was a different story though, Stock, A, B, C all ran totally different times.
Aero C and GT straight + 54f was a good combo(fastest I ran). Dont know if it would work for a Supra though.
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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE (AMON @ Today at 8:33 AM)
Performance-sensitive aftermarket wheels fit the scene perfectly. However, I find it to be a joke that they emulate wheel mass in a game that can't emulate vehicular dynamics. Besides, in reality, the differences in weight between typical Wangan cars are negligible--it bears almost no influence on the car.

Unlike you, I don't feel like I've gained an almighty insight into Wangan tuning by looking at pictures. There is a lot more behind tuning for a high-speed freeway car than the game leads us to believe. In my honest opinion, this translated 'wheel guide' is purely fabricated--the cited wheel descriptions are actually taken directly from the description of the real-life wheels, so I doubt they have any effect in a mainstream arcade game.

Well, thats your opinion, and theres nothing stopping you from thinking so...

However, a lot of us do seem to think it does work, so, thats us i guess....

Then again... if they can make some cars go faster and some cars handle better... whats stopping them from making the kits and rims do so?

*shrug*

@ PDK

West is my general run... but i'm looking to break the east records too. i run west at about 6'8 consistantly on my current setup. my best time of 6'5 was with no aero, TE37's, no wing... my east time was 1'8 i think... but i only get 2'1 consistantly, dont really TA east that much yet.

I'm prolly gonna drop my aero and wings... then look for the best suited rims for a high speed run to take my IR attack on...

hence my need for rims.
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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 08:44 AM
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The wheels here are translated off Namco's original website, which is in Japanese.

Although Namco claims that dressup parts have no effect, many player feel a significant difference between each wheel.

Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 3 is an arcade game, it is not a simulator to real life wangan.

If you want to play a simulator for real life driving, go play Battle Gear 4 Professional Tuned.

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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE (AMON @ Today at 8:33 AM)
Performance-sensitive aftermarket wheels fit the scene perfectly. However, I find it to be a joke that they emulate wheel mass in a game that can't emulate vehicular dynamics. Besides, in reality, the differences in weight between typical Wangan cars are negligible--it bears almost no influence on the car.

Unlike you, I don't feel like I've gained an almighty insight into Wangan tuning by looking at pictures. There is a lot more behind tuning for a high-speed freeway car than the game leads us to believe. In my honest opinion, this translated 'wheel guide' is purely fabricated--the cited wheel descriptions are actually taken directly from the description of the real-life wheels, so I doubt they have any effect in a mainstream arcade game.

You really do think I'm totally oblivious to any tuner scene, don't you?
I put the * in *pictures* for a reason. Figure it out, smarty pants.

Have you even played the game enough to feel any difference between aero kits and wheels? I don't think so.
Come back when you've finished the game and constantly run a decent TA time.


Dare:

Eastbound I run 01'7 constants, and I can do that with Official Machine and *mostly* all Wangan TA oriented cars set on AeroC with some form of Enkei or Rays.
Cant really help you with West, I'm totally lost on how to run it haha.
I would try Official Machine for a while though, see how you like it. I find it most stable and loses less speed in the minor bends (Supra) compared to some driver controlled settings.

Edit: whoops, typo.

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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE (PDK @ Today at 8:47 AM)
You really do think I'm totally oblivious to any tuner scene, don't you?
I put the * in *pictures* for a reason. Figure it out, smarty pants.

Have you even played the game enough to feel any difference between aero kits and wheels? I don't think so.
Come back when you've finished the game and constantly run a decent TA time.


Dare:

Eastbound I run 01'7 constants, and I can do that with Official Machine and *mostly* all Wangan TA oriented cars set on AeroC with some form of Enkei or Rays.
Cant really help you with West, I'm totally lost on how to run it haha.
I would try Official Machine for a while though, see how you like it. I find it most stable and loses less speed in the minor bends (Supra) compared to some driver controlled settings.

Edit: whoops, typo.

Nah, not a real big fan of the official machine... even though its usable...

I probably could hit 1'7 constantly if I TAed east at all, but i havent touched it in a while, and even when i set my best time i only played 2 or 3 rounds.

The TCII's arent too bad I guess... could try the 57F's too...

hmm.. must try soon.

your feedback would help you know.. and save me quite a bit
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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 08:58 AM
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Not a big fan of Official eh..
I could always dig up some Supra's this weekend and give it a couple runs on Wangan, see how different setups go.
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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 09:00 AM
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Relax. I'm not here to incite any problems. I'm just a bit baffled by the hostility to a new community member. Looking back at my posts that allegedly caused the conflict, I haven't actually said anything that willfully defamed anybody or their personal playing preferences. I'm simply responding to what seems like an out-of-the-blue hostility.
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Come back when you've finished the game and constantly run a decent TA time.

What's with the exclusive elitism? I could say that same to you: come back to me when you know more about real street racing or JDM tuning, or own your own car. Don't you see there's a serious flaw in that logic of exclusion?
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QUOTE (PDK @ Today at 8:58 AM)
Not a big fan of Official eh..
I could always dig up some Supra's this weekend and give it a couple runs on Wangan, see how different setups go.

nah. i'll be fine doing it myself...
just would have been easier if new suggestions on speed based rims came up... dont wanna end up going to the same old stuff.

@ AMON..
its just that your statements on how dressups dont matter... err. sorta incite old problems... old flame wars, etc etc etc... so... yeah, it touched a nerve...

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What's with the exclusive elitism? I could say that same to you: come back to me when you know more about real street racing or JDM tuning, or own your own car. Don't you see there's a serious flaw in that logic of exclusion?

AHAHAHA
So you do think I'm a total moron to tuning and "JDM"
Street racing, Im sorry. I think its childish and outright STUPID
I track my shit. JDM, oh, I know JDM... Own a car? Check.

We just don't like noobs coming here and running their mouths to vets. Let alone question their knowledge on "real street racing n JDM tunez" yo.
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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (AMON @ Today at 9:00 AM)
Relax. I'm not here to incite any problems. I'm just a bit baffled by the hostility to a new community member. Looking back at my posts that allegedly caused the conflict, I haven't actually said anything that willfully defamed anybody or their personal playing preferences. I'm simply responding to what seems like an out-of-the-blue hostility.

What's with the exclusive elitism? I could say that same to you: come back to me when you know more about real street racing or JDM tuning, or own your own car. Don't you see there's a serious flaw in that logic of exclusion?

dude, there's a real life tuners forum somewhere around, you might wanna comment there instead..

you're in the game section, so we are talking about the terms and physics about the game, not real life tuning. learn to separate. the reason why sometimes new forumers get shot is because there're some of them who just run their mouth as if they know everything. I'm not saying you are, but in general it's like that.

parts don't matter? have you played enough to know that it's so?

and oh, please don't try to be a smart arse. this is a game, real life physics don't apply here. respect the older community, we'll respect you.

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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 05:08 PM
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just asking, is enkei NT03 is good for r33?
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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 07:11 PM
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What's with the exclusive elitism? I could say that same to you: come back to me when you know more about real street racing or JDM tuning, or own your own car. Don't you see there's a serious flaw in that logic of exclusion?

That's the most common perception by newbies in this game. They think they are good in doing stupid things on the road and claimed themselves damn good in the game. When you sit on the leather seat of your Lexus, it's the reality and when you sat on the plastic chair of the Namco machine, it's the fantasy. And just like those Disney stories, many things can happen in a fantasy world.

Change your 400ps in your signature to HP please. It's such an insult to your Aristo since it's churning only 394.528028248 HP.

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@furanz You're looking for grip or slide? I used it in my R34 before and the accel is somehow OK OK only (since its not so light) and the handling is somewhat not too grippy nor too slidy... Makes wonders during battle though... XD

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Change your 400ps in your signature to HP please. It's such an insult to your Aristo since it's churning only 394.528028248 HP.

So now I have somebody who doesn't like my preferred units of measurement?

Tell me: do you have a problem with using kilowatts too?

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Tell me: do you have a problem with using kilowatts too?

No need. Because that will immediately derail the thread. smile.gif
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Posted: Apr 11 2008, 09:21 PM
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Furanz.. personally, i dont really like the NT03 that much... feels a bit weird... the Supra and R33 are fairly similar, so i'd probably think if I were to try it on the 33, i'd feel the same way. But you might come to a different decision of course...

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Posted: Apr 12 2008, 02:33 AM
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@ dare: i used official machine r33 for westbound and i managed to get 6'4 a few times, with theory time being 6'2...
stock's accel for r33 is surprisingly very good...i dont think u will need to worry about wheels if u really got used to running with official r33
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@ dare: i used official machine r33 for westbound and i managed to get 6'4 a few times, with theory time being 6'2...
stock's accel for r33 is surprisingly very good...i dont think u will need to worry about wheels if u really got used to running with official r33

Dont have a 33.., =(

I run a Supra... =P

My problem might be cp4... i know i can get it down more, but i'm not consistant there... sigh

guess i will try out the OM.. then see what i do from there... might do better in stock... lol

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yeah...
west is all about cp4...
u do the last set of turns wrong...there goes ur whole TA...=(
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QUOTE (ac101 @ Today at 2:57 AM)
yeah...
west is all about cp4...
u do the last set of turns wrong...there goes ur whole TA...=(

Put it this way... i ran 6'795 earlier today... then came back and saw a youtube vid from jap... a 350z... who ran 6'131

i beat him on cp1, 2 and 3... -.-"

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yeah...i know wat u mean...
i had the same thing happened to me before...==;
everything from cp1 to cp3 was in the -
and then cp4 last few turns...><
took the 1st left turn at 285 exit and then everything went downhill from there...sighhh...==;

and if u really want to try r33, be like me...
get a new r33...and just use official machine to TA with it...
dont ghost, dont story mode, dont outrun, dont battle...just TA with official machine...

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@ dare
so, which rims is good for R33?
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QUOTE (furanz @ Today at 7:10 AM)
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so, which rims is good for R33?

i'm assuming what works for the supra will be similar on the r33... since both are high speed, low handling cars...

TE37's are good, one of my personal favourites...

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