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Posted: Apr 9 2008, 11:16 PM
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Another time post lol

34' inbound and 38' outbound..

Outbounds harder...gahhh...

Im tryin not to hit the walls, but its pretty difficult, i did those with 760hp

The conseq S turns are what kill me...im starting to get the MASSIVE Red turns with my exit speed being 110kms, but im just starting to get that theory down...

Actually, its helped me with some of Osakas turns lol
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 04:53 AM
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2'28'4xx for hak out
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 05:00 AM
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2'28'4xx for hak out

Hey, phil...you're here now???

That "place" must have died, huh? (AGF)
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 05:11 AM
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nahh its not dead...its just stopped receiving new people...that's all..
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 05:45 AM
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QUOTE (pillz @ Today at 5:11 AM)
nahh its not dead...its just stopped receiving new people...that's all..

LOLs welcome to the forums phil...

You might wanna give me an extra vanilla latte and some more tutorials on Hakone Outbound.. Still confused with a few lines on Outbound.. Best time so far was 2'32"9xx with an FD.. =_=" could be faster, but always screwed up on either 2nd or 3rd CP..

What's the ideal CPs for hitting 29s or 28s? Might wanna show me how you play OB again when you got the time ^o^
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 06:16 AM
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haah~
would u like extra shots with that??
or would the shots like you instead??? XDD
for hakone,
just send me a video of ur run n i'll tell u where 2 fill up the gaps~
i rekn that works much better cos u noe where ur goin wrong n can correct it back~
but tbh, most of the time ur just on the wrong gear, esp 2nd cp where u gear 4 instead of 5 on ur r34, n that's just speed loss~
so yeahh~~
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 06:39 AM
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No. Just the ordinary vanilla latte lol..

Hmm.. I'll be playing on Saturdays, so I might ask EVE to take a vid of me TAing on OB so that you could correct my lines or my gearshiftings..

I'm not using the R34 for TAing on Hakone though. It's just too hard.. I managed to get only 2'34"2xx by using the R34 on OB, and 2'31"xxx on IB.. =_=" so slow.. But EVE could get 2'29"xxx with R34 on IB !! WTF!?!?!?!?!!?
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 06:45 AM
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wew, i can onli get 2.36.xxx with my r2 and i must use 740 cause 760 is too much drift for me.
Any sugestion??
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 06:55 AM
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@furanz

R2.. It IS good, but just forget about it.. It's too drifty.. Tried that car already, and managed to hit 2'31"xxx for IB.. =_="

Might wanna try the setups first.. I think that Official Cars just doesn't work for R2s coz they are just waaaaaaay too drifty...

You might wanna try TAing Hakone using your R32 first. After you got used with the course, try it on ur R2..

I'm not a pro though, but I hope that my advice could help happy.gif

pillz is a Hakone pro.. Trust me.. He's just so FKing fast.. =_="
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 06:58 AM
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oh i dunt know that official car r2 is too drifty
ok, i'll try use my r32. maybe tomorrow or saturday i will try
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE (furanz @ Today at 6:45 AM)
wew, i can onli get 2.36.xxx with my r2 and i must use 740 cause 760 is too much drift for me.
Any sugestion??

I tried an R2...think this was the setup it was on:
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hit 29 first try on inbound

which is really slow >_>
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Posted: Apr 10 2008, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (pillz @ Today at 4:53 AM)
2'28'4xx for hak out

Sif, I only got 2'29'7xx =(.. Lol.. And when I checked it.. My 2nd CP is like.. 0'00'6xx slower than u lol...

Teach me how to play OB again next time!! xD~~.. I can't figure out how to do the throttle control @ this course.. >_<;
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Posted: Apr 12 2008, 07:27 AM
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wew, my first try on hakone IB with my R32: 2'35"xxx
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Posted: Apr 12 2008, 10:37 PM
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wow that is good furanz. That is better than the top time at my arcade, which is 2'36"xxx.

My first with my s30z: 2'43"xxx

I got it pretty perfect. But i dunno how to make it faster. I think I can shave 3 seconds by perfecting the turns and everything. But I think my car is abit too heavy. see my sig for my tuning. I go at 760HP on it. But still. I think it is too slow. I mainly stay on 3rd and 4th gear.

So any tips would be good. Thanks.
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Posted: Apr 12 2008, 10:57 PM
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tbh you only need 4th gear...but that's my opinion...
only use 3rd gear if u really have to..

youtubing the inbound videos really help...its just a matter of comparing the good runs with your one n seeing what's the difference between it~

i do inbound on 800...so what i describe is going to be quite different to how you should drive...but yeahh...that's as much help as i can offer...
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Posted: Apr 12 2008, 11:03 PM
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yer I figured out about 4th gear. I only 3rd gear to accelerate out or I need it. I also brake in Hakone. Is that a good idea?
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Posted: Apr 12 2008, 11:08 PM
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Breaking in hakone is a very very powerful tool when ur learning the course and tryin to get faster times...

Ud prob only break many of the yellow turns and red turns...but deciding when to break and when to let off the breaks and then acell - or just let off the breaks, is entirely situational...

My suggestion for u to get faster times, is

A) line practising (crucial for entry/exit speeds and minimise sliding)
cool.gif Gear training - when to use which gear for which areas or break the habbit of CONSTANTLY shifting to 3rd in a 5spd and 4th in a 6spd
C) NOT hitting walls
D) Watch a couple of TA's and try to figure out how they get fast times, even if its just .5 second per trial...

Just be crucial of ur lines, cuz i LOVE to slide around, but its poor for time attacks, so its mostly disipline for me to remain on the TA line...
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Posted: Apr 12 2008, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE (fknazn @ Today at 11:08 PM)
Breaking in hakone is a very very powerful tool when ur learning the course and tryin to get faster times...

Ud prob only break many of the yellow turns and red turns...but deciding when to break and when to let off the breaks and then acell - or just let off the breaks, is entirely situational...

My suggestion for u to get faster times, is

A) line practising (crucial for entry/exit speeds and minimise sliding)
cool.gif Gear training - when to use which gear for which areas or break the habbit of CONSTANTLY shifting to 3rd in a 5spd and 4th in a 6spd
C) NOT hitting walls
D) Watch a couple of TA's and try to figure out how they get fast times, even if its just .5 second per trial...

Just be crucial of ur lines, cuz i LOVE to slide around, but its poor for time attacks, so its mostly disipline for me to remain on the TA line...

brake not break... lol
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walltap! been doing that recently... much more consistent now...=)
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Posted: Apr 13 2008, 12:10 AM
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hahah..my bad..

My brains messed up atm...too many assignments lol

Anyways

How do u walltap on Hakone?!

Walltap on the entry or exit?
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Posted: Apr 13 2008, 12:21 AM
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thanks fknazn. I will keep those all in mind. I do walltap abit still but I only have been focusing on Hakone for the past 3 days. So I am NO expert at Hakone yet. But I have been redoing it tonnes. Um 1 question, how come I cant use my car in TA, well I do machine TA. Is there a way for me to use my s30z setup on TA?
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Posted: Apr 13 2008, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE (Death_B2KSJ @ Today at 12:21 AM)
how come I cant use my car in TA, well I do machine TA. Is there a way for me to use my s30z setup on TA?

You should've asked in the PLAYERS, OLD AND NEW, ASK QUESTIONS HERE-thread.

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After reading some of your post, it sounds like you're still a novice in this game. Carefull not to give false info 'bout ex. set-ups that you haven't tried yet to new/advanced members. Don't jump in a thread her'n there and post/tell people that "this" is great and "that" is good. All is based on experience and facts.
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Anyways, if you start a TA, be sure not to select the Official Machine, but the other one (I forgot which one that was). Now you can TA with your own car happy.gif


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Posted: Apr 13 2008, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (fknazn @ Today at 12:10 AM)
hahah..my bad..

My brains messed up atm...too many assignments lol

Anyways

How do u walltap on Hakone?!

Walltap on the entry or exit?

you only ever walltap when you enter a corner..
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how come I cant use my car in TA, well I do machine TA. Is there a way for me to use my s30z setup on TA?


eh?

cant use your car in TA?

what you on about?
just go personal best...
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Posted: Apr 13 2008, 12:41 AM
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lol actually Im not really that much of a novice. its just that I didn bother with TA and auras last time. as well as a few other things. Anyways... thanks for the tips.

O and Hakone IB is somehow shorter than Hakone OB, I found out by lik 100m. lol I wonder why. laugh.gif I think it is the ending circle, as OB has a larger U-turn.
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QUOTE (Death_B2KSJ @ Today at 12:41 AM)
lol actually Im not really that much of a novice. its just that I didn bother with TA and auras last time. as well as a few other things. Anyways... thanks for the tips.

O and Hakone IB is somehow shorter than Hakone OB, I found out by lik 100m. lol I wonder why. laugh.gif I think it is the ending circle, as OB has a larger U-turn.

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does the length matter... they're two different courses... pretty sure the start/end points are slightly off each other too...

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Hakone OB is the reverse track of Hakone IB. =_=" so that, how to do those 2 courses are quite similar.

2'43"xxx WAS my time when I first played MT and found out that Hakone was a challenging course to play.. =_="

Now I'm stuck at 2'29.. And I hit that 2'29s only once.. Never hit that zone again..

On OB, I'm stuck at 2'32..
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