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Use 825 when you are LEARNING, the main problem for amateurs on hakone is that they don't brake enough, they treat it as a highway course. Using 825 and trying to get through in a clean run is a good exercise, since when you go to a feasible hp such as 740 or 760 they gain an appreciation for the grip they have and they will start to form a line with practice.

I don't understand why its such blasphemy to use 825 on hakone to learn how to brake effectively.

besides, its how I learn't, sure not much of a ta person myself but still, i'm competitive.

TET-R is still there..

MAEDA and MASA are "not too bad" as well..

I agree with u to certain extent. However, let’s see, hmm how many braking there is on hokone (Proper TA 760hp).

Inbound-->5 braking point and out of 5, 3 big brake, 2 small tap brake

Out bound-->3 braking point, out of 3, 2 wall tap brake, and 1 medium bake.

so all together there is only 8 main braking point with 760hp.

IF u did on 825hp the breaking point is going to be more, and also lot heavier braking. Like.... I really don’t see the point of practising on high hp then dropping it down to 760hp overtime.

The point I really like to make is 825hp and 760hp has completely different technique. 800hp to 825hp has very similar, so if u r used to 825hp u can jump into 800hp without too much problem. However, the gap between 800hp to 760hp is big, u can’t use pretty much most of technique from high end hp.

As well at the end of the day, r u going to use 825hp on battle or trying to achieve personal best TA? Don’t think so.. Unless u r phill

point taken. If anything, i just feel it teaches people to slow down to avoid just slamming into every corner. But however you learn i guess.

ahh finally XDD

but yeah still need to correct cp1 and 2 taps hmm....

CONGRATZ...hakone divergent XD

<3 this

GRATZ!!!!!!!!!

LOL at ur cp1 and 2 XD

I KNOW !!!

it's mass crap >.>"

gonna have to cut it down, heaps~

cp3 to an extent as well~....

yeah ur cp3 is slighly slow, but again ur cp4 is fast enough to makes up =P

Listen to the man who posted youtube's first 2'26 Hakone Inbound video.

lol that was long long time go =)



slight improvement =D

The growing trend of yellow Mx5's

Just found this thread, good points on the inbound/outbound braking, at the moment, i've just started on this course, and running 740/B, doing well and over braking and managing 2 '47 on both ways, best to run a little slow while ur learning the corners I suppose.

meh, not in m'sia XD

my one is actually just a namco sticker. XD


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guess i'll need to chase >.<"

cp2 and 3 has potential tho....hmm...


may revise ARMS video again


probs call u next wk/wk after if i can't break

hhmmm try wat i told u lol

but yea call u next weekkkkkk lol

i did say try O_O"??

besides trying to break the record XDD

but yeah...we can at least chase jp at this rate~


EDIT:
oh wait, post misread

yeah i'll try that XD

This post has been edited by pillz on Apr 22 2010, 05:46 AM

lol dont turn into rafy =P

but yeah my weakest check point is Cp1 and 4...

Ive been pushing cp1.. but yeah the best i did sofar is 13'1** .. but i can never ever get that consitently =(

Cp4 same thing the best i did sofar is 10'2** and cant get it down =(

LOL

but yeah hmm...try what i text'd u....i seem to exit a lot faster with it.

yeah phill should i drive down to sydney again next month? =P

I still give respect for that lol and you were my motivation =)

haha thank you

I can't even get 4'40 in my RX8. You're too good at Hakone pillz =)

^ mine couldn't get below 42 here(dx+). sux for me.