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Posted: Jan 17 2012, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE (Jammy @ 7 hours, 22 minutes ago)
anything beyond 4:50:xxx is awesome time in my book. smile.gif

The R35 does have quite a big ass, so my room for turning is severely limited. Maybe I should transfer my RX-8 to DX+ soon and start taking TA records and crowns.


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QUOTE (Gunma's 34 @ 7 hours, 20 minutes ago)
On the outbound, how do you take the last hairpin downhill before you get back up to the uphill section? (as in right after the chicane then the semi-circle/semi-roundabout.

My times were good from CP 1-3 then I fall behind at CP 4 because of those last 2 hairpins.

If that's the chicane with a small section of it that is inclined, I usually go to the outer section, tap the brakes, full turn, then countersteer and accel away. Same basic principle of out-in-out in a corner.
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Posted: Jan 17 2012, 05:05 AM
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Ugh, and to think i can drive 1.5minutes in hakone ta without braking.
I still get a bad time considering afterwards i need braking.

Isn't it mostly, brake tapping, entry and exit speed regardling specific lines and wall tapping?

i don't even remember hakone and osaka tas..
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Posted: Jan 18 2012, 08:06 AM
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just broke my record today from 4'50"134 to 4'50"104 and then broke it again to 4'48"787..photo's will be uploaded soon (I'm having heart attack when I broke it)
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Posted: Jan 18 2012, 06:01 PM
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Cant break into 4'36 sad.gif
So far best is 4:37'9xx but everytime keep hitting the walls
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Posted: Jan 19 2012, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (russianigor69 @ 6 hours, 4 minutes ago)
Cant break into 4'36 sad.gif
So far best is 4:37'9xx but everytime keep hitting the walls

@D33DO
Hehe nice. Anyways, it looks like you're getting there. Keep it up smile.gif

Also:
The number one R34 in Asia Pacific has spoken!!! All hail to Master Igor!!!

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Posted: Jan 19 2012, 05:30 AM
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QUOTE (russianigor69 @ Yesterday, 6:01 PM)
Cant break into 4'36 sad.gif
So far best is 4:37'9xx but everytime keep hitting the walls

@blackcyborg009 I'm still a newbie..ahahaha but thanks biggrin.gif

what?? to do 4'38 "xxx can only be adream for me..so your car is an R34 GT-R?? is your car difficult to drive in Hakone??
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Posted: Feb 6 2012, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE (D33DO @ Jan 19 2012, 05:30 AM)
what?? to do 4'38 "xxx can only be adream for me..so your car is an R34 GT-R?? is your car difficult to drive in Hakone??

Yup its r34. But i time attack with rx-8
Overall 34 isnt hard. At the moment i got stock body which imo makes it really balanced(light and handles pretty well)
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Posted: Feb 6 2012, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE (russianigor69 @ 30 minutes, 11 seconds ago)
Yup its r34. But i time attack with rx-8
Overall 34 isnt hard. At the moment i got stock body which imo makes it really balanced(light and handles pretty well)
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Yeah, seen you in ghost crown race that you really perfect turn all the way...goddamn it lol
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Posted: Feb 6 2012, 06:06 AM
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HOW TO GET 4"38 With R34... Master! Tell me your secret!!

AND Is it true that if your car has 6-gears, to get better times you shouldn't go below the 4th gear?
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Posted: Feb 6 2012, 06:07 AM
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QUOTE (Gunma's 34 @ 1 minute, 13 seconds ago)
AND Is it true that if your car has 6-gears, to get better times you shouldn't go below the 4th gear?

I know that it isn't directed to me but that's what my team leader taught me too laugh.gif
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Posted: Feb 6 2012, 06:14 AM
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QUOTE (Gunma's 34 @ 7 minutes, 24 seconds ago)
HOW TO GET 4"38 With R34... Master! Tell me your secret!!

AND Is it true that if your car has 6-gears, to get better times you shouldn't go below the 4th gear?

lawl 4'38 with r34 isnt hard, breaking into 4'37 is bloody hard with R34 >.< Actually what people usually miss understand about R34 is, even with that massive size its bloody damn good car to turn corner and it also has good decel and acc rate.

and just a note:
-6 gear car never go below 5th gear on hakone
-5 gear car never go below 4th gear on hakone
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Posted: Feb 6 2012, 06:23 AM
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so... I take the hairpins on gear 5!? O.o *must practice hard once this is confirmed*
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Posted: Feb 6 2012, 06:27 AM
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lawl 4'38 with r34 isnt hard.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
and i thought getting 4'50" with it is hard enough. blink.gif
or with any car for that matter. XD

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so... I take the hairpins on gear 5!? O.o *must practice hard once this is confirmed*

this should be interesting xD
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Posted: Feb 6 2012, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE (Jammy @ 33 minutes, 56 seconds ago)
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lawl 4'38 with r34 isnt hard.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
and i thought getting 4'50" with it is hard enough. blink.gif
or with any car for that matter. XD

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so... I take the hairpins on gear 5!? O.o *must practice hard once this is confirmed*

this should be interesting xD

tbh hakone is just series of pattern, once u understand the pattern its pretty easy.

Ive stoped TAing hakone for nearly 1year and a half and, when i was playing i got it down to 4'37'5**, which isnt fast compare to all those pro honky who are flying around with like 4'34 or is it 4'33 by now XD

but yeh the best way to learn to play hakone is by just dividing the hakone into inbound and outbound, in other word just keep on playing ghost lvl 9 or lvl10 ?(the super hard one before ghost kings XD) and vs the PC cars (example: zzzzz, Taro, Kevin, Ben, etc). Also while you are learning do not ever give up and turn back, finish the entire course, by just doing that you will be able to learn hakone within 1~2hours.

Once you memorise the corners, goto TA mode, try for few hours then swtich to one hand driving (just one hand on the wheel). Some people might think this is useless, but from what i can say is by just practising using one hand the entire course without hitting any wall gives;

1. accurate turning point of your car, for each corner
2. gives better ideal of how your car moves in each corner.
3. better ideal of decel during corner
4. You will be able to learn how to react in each situaion without hitting walls (gas off braking etc)
5. better gear shift control?! (good and bad, one thing dont ever put ur self into a situation where you have to gear down more then 1 gear below the max gear).

if you fix bit by bit over time, your time will drop

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Posted: Feb 6 2012, 08:35 AM
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thanks for the tips Jimmy155.

On my part I already know and somewhat memorized Hakone. My problem now is getting my time to go down where on TA the 4th section kills me hard (after the semi-roundabout followed by a hard right hairpin) my clocked times from the top time of that cab which was a 4"40 btw, was +.3, +0.9, +0.1, then to a massive 3-5 seconds on the final one which is bugging me.

Oh, and I use one-hand steer for almost all my games btw. XD
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Posted: Feb 6 2012, 06:31 PM
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thanks also jimmy smile.gif
will give your tips a try first chance i get
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Posted: Feb 7 2012, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE (Jammy @ 5 hours, 31 minutes ago)
thanks also jimmy smile.gif
will give your tips a try first chance i get

I could see the face you're wearing when you finally mastered Hakone...

and it's on your avatar tongue.gif
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Posted: Feb 7 2012, 03:35 AM
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QUOTE (+-!mma_N00B- @ +3 hours, 32 minutes ago)
I could see the face you're wearing when you finally mastered Hakone...

and it's on your avatar tongue.gif

not really mastered, but getting there. tongue.gif
4'49"275, two tenths of a second faster than that CLAMP guy's last run smile.gif
sweet jesus. xD
wonder if i could do that again.

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Posted: Feb 7 2012, 03:35 AM
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Yes jimmy well said. 6 gear shouldn't go below 5th. The record is somewhere near 4'35"5xx

Memorize the track, learn lines and practice is all it takes smile.gif

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Posted: Feb 7 2012, 04:32 AM
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@!mma_N00B, I was expecting the mother-of-god face than that...

*goes to arcade*
*does Jimmy155's advice on Hakone*
*does Hakone run*
*obliterates old time attack record*
*mother-of-god*
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Posted: Feb 7 2012, 04:59 AM
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QUOTE (Gunma's 34 @ 26 minutes, 33 seconds ago)
@!mma_N00B, I was expecting the mother-of-god face than that...

*goes to arcade*
*does Jimmy155's advice on Hakone*
*does Hakone run*
*obliterates old time attack record*
*mother-of-god*

=O tbh i typed that at 1am so sort of dont remember anything >.<
but gratz on getting better on hakone lawl laugh.gif
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Posted: Feb 7 2012, 05:02 AM
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give the congrats once I DO go to the GC arcade/Timezone to test it out.

Was gonna go for 2 tries to test it today but..
I SPENT ALL MY CHANGE ($4 total) THAT WAS FOR THOSE 2 MAXI RUNS... FOR A FRIKKIN' PIE FACE BROWNIE... Worth it though. tongue.gif
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Posted: Feb 7 2012, 07:00 AM
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and just a note:
-6 gear car never go below 5th gear on hakone
-5 gear car never go below 4th gear on hakone

seriously?? I always go to 3rd gear in hakone with R32 GT-R..hmmm..maybe it's my lining problem ermm2.gif
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Posted: Mar 13 2012, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (D33DO @ Feb 7 2012, 07:00 AM)
seriously?? I always go to 3rd gear in hakone with R32 GT-R..hmmm..maybe it's my lining problem ermm2.gif

Line is a big factor of how fast you can go in hakone. People say exit speed doesn't really matter, and while it's generally true, exit speeds in hakone can hint what may come up. For example, either inbound or outbound, the first red turn, if you exit 140, it's gonna be a nice run. 130 would be an okay run, and the middle red turn should be around 150, anything below might be able to be compensated.
But yeah, go all out on your runs, take the turns as best as you can, and once you consistently do the turns, muscle memory will take over and no matter what car you may run (hi-ace, evo VIII, r32, what ever it may be,) you'll do well!
Practice makes perfect!...Or close to it!
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Posted: Mar 14 2012, 12:00 AM
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reading this,
feeling this,
ta'ing this,

in 20 days.... sigh
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