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i just learnt too brake from watching the fish video
because its in 3rd person you can see the braking points even tho i play hakone ib in 1st
then i just adapted it to my own playing style, and changed some of the points too suit my needs
but i havnt played too much hakone ib since iv learnt too play it properly...ran 29'0 a fair while ago in my rx8 just too test some things out, the setup is really bad for hakone i cbf changing it
i might try auto on the weekend for some fun lol....

This post has been edited by BDDEE@ on May 26 2008, 03:12 AM

Well I think it's all about players preference.

Cause if you look at FD3S video, he stays in 4th pretty much all the race except for one corner he goes from 5th to 4th (CP4 yellow corner). You can choose if you go in 5th gear on CP2 red turn and on CP3 straight cause stayin in 4th doesn't make much difference.

you have too keep up the speed too stay in 4th... it does make a difference but only on the skill of the player
there should be atleast, 6-7 places

its highly likely that FD3S vid was taken by BDDEE ya know.
xD

bddee, what gear does jimmy stick to when using a 6 gear car (preferably supra, but i can work around others)

the more u shift up, the more u are releasing the throttle, cos evrytime u shift up, you are always 1 millisecond off gas, hence the "backfire"

that's why taro gets 27 for OB n i get 28 for OB.

I'm not talking about Jimmy's video. I'm talking about the japanese player FD3S.


EDIT : http://youtube.com/watch?v=OT7QN6-qhK4 the video i'm talking about.

I'll admit I was wrong about the fact that you only have to shift 3-4 time on Inbound but you don't need to shift more than 8-9 times.

This post has been edited by Dizzi on May 26 2008, 07:42 AM

thats because he can keep up his speed, as i said
lower skill players that cant keep up the speed will have too shift down because they lose too much speed during the corner because of there line
which is why i said 6-7

Practice makes perfect

I had some free time so I did the video for fun, since my friend was willing to record it

don't expect some uber 1337 times, this was my first time using the cosmo...LOL

auto is just...so bad compared to manual =o=

Hakone IB with AUTOMATIC Cosmo, 2'31'076....F**King dumspring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcJP6MtNrKw

cosmo's not that bad man....just need to steer early n steer less....in fact that's how i drive mazdas....minimal steer XD

the cosmo's quite light for a big car...so yeahh...its actually pretty good XD

I haven't driven a cosmo since MT2 days...LOL

Guys does half accelerating gives any effect?

Please clarify on that - I might be wrong in interpreting that as riding your gas (half-pressure on gas as opposed to fully jamming/punching it).

@xeoreg: I got the vids for both Inbound and Outbound using my RX-8; they're RELATIVELY clean (or almost contact-free). Just need to get them from my friend before I can post them - should be up tomorrow. And BTW, that vid was great!

This post has been edited by raven111 on Jun 17 2008, 04:02 AM

Word up! I'm a R34 user, PINK R34 FTW! But, whenever somebody challenges me on Hakone, I hit every wall and lose by like 600m. I can never get this map right. I'm gonna try it with a Evo8 though.

hehehe... hakone is hard but with consistent practice you will improve... right?

pretty much after you learn the basics of the course, you can do it right, and with practice, well, it makes perfect, i once beat a 800hp r34 with my 600hp R2. man, i hate hakone...

Master the course, by "saving" the whole course in your brain or you can try master the course using an E8 first. Then when you're using your R34, take every corner 10~15 km/h slower than your E8 cornering speed. If you're a few cm from the wall but didn't hit, that means you're fast enough, if you leave a huge gap from the wall, that means you can go faster at the corner and if you wall tapped, that means you're too fast. Remember to countersteer early too, R34 isn't as forgiving as the E8. If you didn't go desperate and start to hit the walls and you're a good blocker/rammer then you'll be able to win the race.

The tip on Hakone is to learn what gear to be in and where to let go of the gas.

Memorize those, and with lots of practise, you'll be able to do well on Hakone.

awww .... i dont kow how to run hakone OB .... i only get 28 low ... and IB i got like 26 high ... that was really bad ..... i feel like sick of tired of TA now >_<

I just posted this: Hakone Automatic.

(If you see it, don't bother pointing out my dings - I'm well aware of them.)

does n e one use the other player to help you turn faster? and btw this is the only course i race on ever!!!!

you mean, running into the other person so you ride them? not exactly faster, but at least more fun

Rarely happens, believe it. I'm usually on the receiving end of it, so it surprises me when I get the inside.

hmm for now im having a hard time mastering the steering control needed for this course.. because what i see in the vids when they use a 5 gear car they just contantly shift 4th and 5th gear and for a 6 gear car they just go for 5th and 6th gear.. hmm even in red turns how is this so??

basically you really need to know when to brake and when to lay off the throttle. in one of xeo's evo8 runs, he only shifts gear like 4 or 5 times?