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jeg_elsker
Posted: Aug 6 2009, 10:53 PM
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hey guys, in 3DX, is there any computer ghost we can play against in hakone? i remembered some mentioned about "if you play against this computer ghost, and manage to have over 1k lead, then you're pretty good at this map already". i want to use this as some kind of measurement, for my hakone training. really suks at this map rite now >_<
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Posted: Aug 6 2009, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (jeg_elsker @ 26 minutes, 26 seconds ago)
hey guys, in 3DX, is there any computer ghost we can play against in hakone? i remembered some mentioned about "if you play against this computer ghost, and manage to have over 1k lead, then you're pretty good at this map already". i want to use this as some kind of measurement, for my hakone training. really suks at this map rite now >_<

yea.. you choose hakone for the map and theres ghost
i can beat ghosts by 1000m on this map but i still suck balls at it


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Posted: Aug 6 2009, 11:41 PM
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can help me list up what are the name of those computer ghost?
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Posted: Aug 7 2009, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE (jeg_elsker @ 2 hours, 53 minutes ago)
can help me list up what are the name of those computer ghost?

Meh, seriously, all of the AI battle ghosts pretty much suck.

So I guess if you do ANY of them, and you get over 1000m, you should be decent. I got a 850m lead once...and I suck balls at this course..

So like..

YUKI
ZZZZZ
ben
mix, etc, etc..

Those should be the ghosts you are talking about.
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Posted: Aug 7 2009, 02:49 AM
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oops, mod please delete post. So so sorry.

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Posted: Aug 7 2009, 08:33 PM
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anyone got a guide on how to drive hakone for noobs? tongue.gif
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Posted: Aug 7 2009, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (*DAN* @ 4 minutes, 9 seconds ago)
anyone got a guide on how to drive hakone for noobs? tongue.gif

lol im a massive noob at hakone also.

umm i generally just stay in 3rd gear and go to 2nd for red corners. depends on what car / hp you're using.

i found it easier on 825 than with 760 lol.
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Posted: Aug 8 2009, 02:07 AM
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@wrx22b1998:
at 760hp, well, generally i use up to 4th gear the most for my FD. most of the time 3rd but sometimes 2nd (if necessary).

@*dan*:
i remember there was a guide for all stuff you want to know here at WME. more of a player handbook. uh i think it's at the FAQ where you can find stuff that you need. it contains the stuff wherein there's like a description of the part of the certain map then gives you pointers on how to tackle it like, uh, slow down and steer hard or something like that... i found it by searching through "yahoo search" and that's also how i discovered WME and become member.

@racex:
you can edit your post if you want to; just to prevent "spamming offense"
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Posted: Aug 8 2009, 03:56 AM
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In old days of mt3 which is still in use in the UK!?!? Because they don't have dx... People liked hakone to pretend to be pro, but you guys were correct in saying if you could beat the ai ghosts by around 1000m, you were pretty decent at it... I still use this as a way to see if i have improved... I usually set around 1100m to 115xm. Still need to improve on hakone, its the red corners... I just can't seem to get a high enough speed out... and i always manage to hit the wall, at some point...

Does anyone know what's the maximum for beating an ai ghost? My friend once did a 12xxm

With regards to gears, i think for 6 speed cars (mine = E8), you're mostly hitting 4th or 5th gears and (6th gear like 2 times), whilst for 5 speed cars (FD & GC8) it's mostly 3rd and 4th gears...

With regards to hp, i don't know which i would really choose, I always seem to choose 740 because when i battle, it's always boost on and i normally do better in corners than my opponent because i use their line and stay behind them and take them in the corner.. But i practise with 760 to know the course better and practise throttle control, and know what happens when i crash on certain parts...

My 2 cents!
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Posted: Aug 8 2009, 06:53 AM
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hmmmmm I beat those comp ghosts @ 11xx for inbound & 800++ @ outbound, I think. laugh.gif
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Posted: Aug 8 2009, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE (Matz @ 4 hours, 56 minutes ago)
@wrx22b1998:
at 760hp, well, generally i use up to 4th gear the most for my FD. most of the time 3rd but sometimes 2nd (if necessary).


i suppossed 780 is d ideal hp for hakone in dx....

i just wonder why u're using 760? ermm2.gif
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Posted: Aug 8 2009, 07:19 AM
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^I use 760 & 80, if someone in battle wants to.





on TA, I use 780 most of the time tho. I use 760 sometimes.

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Never tried it at 780... but considering me noob, never will... Lol!
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Posted: Aug 8 2009, 08:05 AM
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760 shd be good enuf for hakone...

780 could be used when taking crown...using the blocking method...of coz the general run must still be decent...

just my opinion...
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Posted: Aug 11 2009, 02:06 AM
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Hello~ I'm currently new in this game and among the courses, I love Hakone best XD Anywho I'm an FD driver and well my HP is usually 760, in all courses. so I guess I don'tt know how to drive yet XD

I didn't know there were AIs in ghost battles o_o gonna try using that then to dress my car up XD and practice hakone too XD

Oh I remembered someone using 5 all the way in hakone and sometimes shifting down to 4 in red. I forgot how he handled it but he was indeed fast. (or maybe his car was new and not fully tuned)
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Posted: Aug 11 2009, 02:31 AM
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heres my suggestion...just me...im noob like you
maybe more noob than you

C1 i would use 720
New belt, depends, 720-800 is range, depend on C or C-C
Yoko, is like 740 to 825
wangan , same as yoko, really depends which route u choose, since it can cut into NBL C1 Yoko
Nagoya, TA 780, but somehow a lot ppl use 760 in battle
Osaka, same as Nagoya 780 TA and 760 battle
Hakone, 760 is fine, if u wanna be extreme,,,try 825 XD
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Posted: Aug 11 2009, 02:32 AM
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@jerada:

watch ppl play hakone and play the AIs for practice and dressup...

by the time u are thru with the dressup, i guarantee u will be alot better at hakone...dun ignore the other maps too ^^
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Posted: Aug 11 2009, 02:33 AM
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If you want to learn Hakone, start playing it at 800 and learn how to turn without hitting walls and learn the line. Then you can move down to 780 and since you did all that practise not hitting walls, you can adapt a faster line and burn through.
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Jerada
Posted: Aug 11 2009, 02:44 AM
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Really? C1 at 720? Isn't that too low? Well I dunno o_o

My car HP usually ranges from 740-825, never thought of going lower since I thought that would be umm embarrassing. (People in the arcades like staring at you while you are playing and they go talk behind you saying how stupid you are, and yeah I'm affected... I suck lol)

Hakone at 825 ohmy.gif sounds nice XD I'll try that sometime LOL XD

@Kungfool
Sadly I rarely see people play Hakone here in the arcades I play o_o so watching people isn't an option DX (youtube? LOL)

@Geo
I'll keep that in mind smile.gif Thanks for the tip biggrin.gif

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Posted: Aug 11 2009, 02:57 AM
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erm 750hp?o.0 Thought one bar would be 20Hp?
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Posted: Aug 11 2009, 02:58 AM
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he must be press wrong button anyway
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Posted: Aug 11 2009, 03:09 AM
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Whoops o_o I didn't notice that DX Thanks XD gonna fix it now~
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Posted: Aug 11 2009, 03:12 AM
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if you go watch the japanese GP tournament...in C1, they like to use 680HP..>.<

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Posted: Aug 11 2009, 03:15 AM
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Seriously? Wow o_o I didn't know that DX Just Wow o_o
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Posted: Aug 11 2009, 03:20 AM
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and like what GEO suggested, do around 800 ish at Hakone first with no crash, then lower it , down to 760 minimum, and u will get faster
or just TA and watch vids to learn lines from pros, anyways welcome you to the world of MT
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